Navy Arms Hawken lock question

[C.J.]

I got the sear spring replaced however now in order to cock the lock I have to pull the set trigger first. Has anyone seen this type of lock and trigger action before?

 

[Lorne Johnson]

Haven't dealt with set triggers, and so I cannot fully answer your question. I have replaced sear springs on Pedersolis, and you do have to fit them (which is to say file them the right amount).

 

[bubba.50]

the triggers in yer gun are likely too deep in the stock allowin' the rear trigger to contact the sear arm before it's 'sposed to unless ya set it first. it could be the inlet was too deep to start with or the wood may have become compressed over time with assembly/disassembly by over tightenin' the screws. shimmin' the triggerplate out a bit will probably take care of the problem.

 

[bpd303]

I agree, should fix it.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Yep, or possibly adjust the spring tension like you can on some triggers?

 

[RonRC]

I have a flintlock that was meant for target shooting and it seems that the lock was set up that way on purpose. I have to pull the set trigger before cocking.

Ron

 

[C.J.]

After doing more research it looks as if the Santa Fe Hawken and this Navy arms is one in the same. Does anyone know if that is the case? I might go the route of trying to locate a replacement lock.

 

[FishDFly]

"The L&R double lever double set triggers do not have the backlash adjusted and the triggers must be set to cock the lock. Once the trigger is set the lock will properly engage the half cock and full cock notches on the tumbler."

From a Hawken rifle for sale.

From TOW.

 

[will5a1]

The Santa Fe Hawken was made by Uberti, and to my knowledge has a different lock than the Navy Arms/Ithaca Hawken, the Uberti Santa Fe has a bent sear, parts for the Uberti are supposed to be available from Taylor and Co, but never seem to be in stock. Navy Arms sold other rifles labeled "Hawken", one brute .58 called the Hawken Hunter, and others, a picture would help pin this down.

 

[bubba.50]

from yer description the problem is not in the lock but, in the sear/trigger geometry. I believe i'd get that problem fixed before I went to the expense of purchasin' a new lock ya might not even need.

my opinion & yer welcome to it, bubba.

 

[C.J.]

Thanks Bubba, I agree with your opinion and appreciate it. Now to try that geometry out

 

[stantdm]

Did you remove the triggers during the time you had the lock out to replace the spring? If you didn't the problem may be as easy to fix as pulling the lock and making sure the new "geometry" isn't causing something to bind the trigger. My Ithaca Hawken doesn't require setting the trigger before I cock it. and I am assuming yours didn't either before the spring change.