well i'm at it again with a neck knife made out of a deer antler tip and the pin is a finishing nail i peened over to make it tight....the knife is from when i was a cub scout back in the late 60's that the handle fell off and i just kept the blade around....thought i would do something with it....the ruler next to it is so ya can see the size of it....i'm not sure if i want to use it as a patch knife yet :v ..............bob