Need Help (pics)

[mickman15]

I have the lock installed, the trigger and tang screw line up great, the nipple and hammer are dead on with each other, I am really close to bluing the barrel and finishing the stock, but I'm stuck right now. I have pins on the butt stock that are angled down ever so slightly. On one side I have a gap that is pretty bad not sure what the cause is or how to proceed, here is the gap
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss303/mickman15/gap.jpg



And the pins, if you can see their angle
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss303/mickman15/pins.jpg


Overall
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss303/mickman15/gun.jpg


I did contact Traditions about the predrilled holes, but have not heard back yet, what would you all do? The next step in the manual is joining the stocks, how would you proceed? Thanks

 

[mickman15]

I wanted to add that if I push the barrel down the gap does close a little, but I'm not sure the barrel will have the consistent pressure to keep the gap closed.

 

[rafterob]

I understand you to be saying that the holes for those stock pins were pre-drilled? I think that downward angled pin is keeping the stock from squaring up together. If that is factory drilled, then that is a manufacturing defect and you should send it back. Kinda a bummer, I know, but that would be better than trying to remedy that issue yourself. You need to Call Traditions customer service to get the best results.

 

[rafterob]

Maybe if you really throw a fit they will send you back a finished rifle :wink:

 

[Rogue River]

If I was as far along as you are I think I would drill and dowel the holes that are giving you the trouble. Then take your brass spacer plate and use as a template and re-drill both sides if needed. From the picture it looks like the plate matches up pretty good to the forend. Maybe all you would have to re-drill is the butt end. If the manufacturer replace the stock all the work you have done would be for naught.

 

[brubincam]

-----I put one together years ago,did away with spacer and pins,wrapped it with wet leather which also made a good carrying grip-----

 

[Rogue River]

You might have to put something in the space you created by removing the spacer depending on how the forend is set up. If I remember correctly it's been a long time since I put one together, the brass end cap screws into the barrel from the bottom to help hold the stock against the barrel along with the pins.

 

[shooyer_250]

send it back and be very very indignant, your time and skills are very valuable, make sure they know it...dagnabit...Lee

 

[tractorholic]

Ok Mr. Mickman; The gap can be closed I think if you remove just a little from the front end of the front stock piece. I did that on mine, but look at it closely prior to removing anything. The holes in the nose cap, brass, were off just a tab and so I removed about a 1/16" from the front piece where the nose cap attaches. I hope this makes sense, but look at yours and see if you think it will work before you do any removing of wood. If the cap can slide back a little that should push the fore stock back so it will fit. Try and push the fore stock back flush with the rear stock, and then check to see if the holes for the nose cap line up. That should tell you if you need to remove just a tad from the front of the stock. Man I hope this makes sense. If it doesn't look right to you, then ignore my comments and chalk it up to whatever.

 

[Len Graves]

Using all the advice given first. If all else fails. The piece of stock that will permanently hold the dowel/guide pins. Drill out the pin holes larger on this part. put your pins in the other part along with the brass spacer get some JB weld put this in the holes drilled larger. put some release agent grease or wax) on your spacer then force your stock together to line up. Let set. You could use epoxy or barrel bedding also. Just remember, use release agent on anything you don't want stuck together. Again this may be a last resort.

 

[musketman]

If I was as far along as you are I think I would drill and dowel the holes that are giving you the trouble. Then take your brass spacer plate and use as a template and re-drill both sides if needed. From the picture it looks like the plate matches up pretty good to the forend. Maybe all you would have to re-drill is the butt end. If the manufacturer replace the stock all the work you have done would be for naught.

Or, if the pins are in tight, you could just file off some of the exposed pins, that would allow it to go in further before bottoming out...

 

[BadHorse]

i got a thicker piece of brass and made a new piece. i think i used a piece 1/8th inch thick

 

[huntman58]

did you get it fixed yet? I had an old CVA kit just like yours and I ended up years later getting a new one piece stock and built a gun around it and love it. Used a lot of the old CVA parts but added a few new ones also.
this is what it looks like as she sits today so if the two things stock gets to ya there is other ways to go

 

[tjohnson56]

Your gun looks a lot like the CVA Kentucky kit I'm working on right now.

Are the butt plate and the piece of brass under the stock two separate pieces? If so could you post a picture of how you finished that joint?

Thanks a lot if you can, I just can't seem to picture that fit.