2,000 then 3,000 Glenn thats really "high end" last org Hillard was under that. :rotf: Unless it's a "first rate" target rifle I sure dont see it. then again I thought the org Zep was to high for 2,000 by about 500, the wood and end product was first rate just not 2,000 worth (to me Imean , if ya got the money..) unless things have changed the last 1/2 year you could still buy a record holder for and spare barrels for 2000. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe it's built around the Kendal - Hillard type action, the H+A Billing,ect is just 3 parts how much can you ask for that? Sent you new work I found about Kendal, I was stuck in hospital again :shake: Fred :hatsoff: