New Movie The Revenant?

[coloradoclyde]

Kind of sad that some people can find no joy in things that are solely intended to do so....... :shake:

 

[Claude Mathis]

Kind of sad that some people can find no joy in things that are solely intended to do so....... :shake:

Indeed. Movies like this are, in my opinion, designed to provide entertainment, not depict the real world.

Many people view them as merely an escape from reality, while others see them only as something to be critiqued and analyzed.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but when I do, I will enjoy it for what it is - a movie.

 

[Nativearizonan]

But, but, but...critiquing and analyzing is part of the entertainment provided by the movie. Isn't it?

 

[Claude Mathis]

But, but, but...critiquing and analyzing is part of the entertainment provided by the movie. Isn't it?

Yes, for some criticism is very much the norm and I'm sure some go to a movie just to see what's wrong with it. :wink:

 

[tenngun]

Come on Claude, many of the boys are yur forum are grumpy old men, scrach us to hard and Walter Mathow jumps out. :haha:

 

[Katahdin]

Sorta like going to a Rendezvous,,just an escape for a while,knowing you will go back to your job shortly

 

[coloradoclyde]

Well I went to see the Revenant tonight instead of watching the Super bowl.....
I had the whole Theater to my self except for two girls that sat behind me...I think they fainted after the opening scene because I never heard a peep out of them throughout the whole movie...

I Leonardo doesn't win an Oscar for his performance....he got robbed
Absolutely spectacular....riveting...and very intense....
Being on this forum or being any kind of history buff will taint your view...I'll watch it again when it comes out on DVD, and critique it then.

The movie is extremely graphic and violent....I found myself squirming in my seat...The movie makes Jeramiah Johnson look like a Disney film...
Definitely worth seeing, but leave the wife and kids home....

 

[CaptainKirk]

Yes I saw it when it first came out and I didn't like it but didn't especially hate it either. Thank goodness it wasn't the same kind of unwatchable carp as Jeremiah Johnson.....

"Jeremiah Johnson", unwatchable 'carp'? Seriously?
If I've seen that movie once, I've seen it at least 250 times. For real. 3 times on the Big Screen.I have worn out both a DVD and a VHS tape.
JJ is what opened up the world of the fur trade and the rondy and the mountain men to me as an impressionable young teen and started a lifelong passion with black powder and American History. While "Revenant" may be more somber and real in a HC sense, it was not the sort of movie I would bring a kid or even a non-fur trade friend to. JJ is a different animal; all my kids have seen it and as adults now, still love it.To each his own, I guess, but this is the first negative comment I've ever read on probably THE most classic mountain man movie ever produced.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Always take Alden's criticisms with a grain of salt.....One can never be sure if he's pulling your leg or not. :haha:

J.J. was indeed a classic and serves as a benchmark for others to be measured by.... :thumbsup:

After seeing the Revenant I think Leonardo would make a good Jerimiah if they ever did a remake of J.J.

 

[tenngun]

I hope they don't do a remake of JJ. However I would go to see it if they did. I thought True Grit was real good the second time around, and Heston in the ten commandants. With few exceptions remakes leave something to be desired, You cant go home again.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Yes I thought Jeff bridges did a good job too....I also agree I hope they don't do a remake.....there are so many other stories that could be told.

 

[pargent]

SO in the grand scheme of things what is the difference between watching an in your face warts an all movie like the REVENANT and the 6 oclock news most nights ???

 

[Nativearizonan]

If they cast DiCaprio as J. Johnson, they would have to go back to the Liver-Eating Johnson story, rather than Jeremiah. He's already earned the title.

Of course he risks getting type cast a liver eater. (Thinking out loud - Maybe they would cast him in Silence of the Lambs, as well.)

 

[tenngun]

Canti and fava beans any one? Tse,tse,tse.

 

[CaptainKirk]

JJ was a blend of fact and fiction gleaned from two books, "Mountain Man" (fiction) by Vardis Fisher, and "Crow Killer" by Raymond W. Thorpe (the true story of "Liver Eatin'" Johnson), both of which I had read before seeing the JJ movie. It was easy to piece together which part was gleaned from what story. Truth is, the public would not have tolerated a story like that of Liver Eatin' Johnson in theaters back in the early '70's...nor would they have tolerated "The Revenant" in it's present form.Personally, I found the "True Grit" remake to not stand nearly as tall as the original. Too much realism is not always good entertainment.While some people go to the movies to get grossed out, shocked, or terrified, Like Claude said earlier.MOST go to see a gripping, sometimes emotional,sometimes humorous, but overall ENTERTAINING experience."The Revenant" did not entertain. It shocked, brought home realism and the dark, stark reality of what life as a fur trader really was, but...it did not entertain.At least not me.

 

[pab1]

JJ was a blend of fact and fiction gleaned from two books, "Mountain Man" (fiction) by Vardis Fisher, and "Crow Killer" by Raymond W. Thorpe (the true story of "Liver Eatin'" Johnson), both of which I had read before seeing the JJ movie. It was easy to piece together which part was gleaned from what story. Truth is, the public would not have tolerated a story like that of Liver Eatin' Johnson in theaters back in the early '70's...nor would they have tolerated "The Revenant" in it's present form.Personally, I found the "True Grit" remake to not stand nearly as tall as the original. Too much realism is not always good entertainment.While some people go to the movies to get grossed out, shocked, or terrified, Like Claude said earlier.MOST go to see a gripping, sometimes emotional,sometimes humorous, but overall ENTERTAINING experience."The Revenant" did not entertain. It shocked, brought home realism and the dark, stark reality of what life as a fur trader really was, but...it did not entertain.At least not me.

You should have read this book first too. I read the novel The Revenant several years ago and enjoyed it. I was excited when rumors first surfaced that it was picked up for a movie adaptation. When I heard early reviews of how much Hollywood strayed from the novel (which nearly always happens)I was disappointed. I'm not in a hurry to see it now but my expectations are pretty low.

 

[Claude Mathis]

I read the novel The Revenant several years ago and enjoyed it. I was excited when rumors first surfaced that it was picked up for a movie adaptation. When I heard early reviews of how much Hollywood strayed from the novel (which nearly always happens)I was disappointed. I'm not in a hurry to see it now but my expectations are pretty low.

I agree, it can be disappointing when someone goes to the movies, expecting to see a novel. :wink:

There's a reason they say "based on the book". That gives them license to pretty much do anything they wish with the original story (fact or fiction).

 

[Len Graves]

I might watch the "view" if the flintlocks on that program were used "liberally" .

 

[coloradoclyde]

I'm telling you guy's ....this film will define the rest of Decaprios career....I think it will be his break out role....
It definitely sets the bar high for his next performance...
I hope his next film is even more ambitious ...
I have never been a fan of any of his other films...but this one left an impression....

 

[tenngun]

I agree. I haven't liked most of his films, and thought he was a poor choice for the roll, but he did do a good job.