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I picked up a .54 cal T/C Hawken for $100. I love shotting old WWI and WWII guns so this will be a new thing for me. What accessories do I need to get started? And where would be a good place to order from?
 
Track of the Wolf has a great catalog and online site. Everything you need from guns, bags, and books! Welcome! :hatsoff:
 
I assume your T/C is a percussion, so start with # 11 caps. You can use Pyrodex RS, but real black powder (Goex FFg or FFFg) is perferred. Get a box of Hornady .530 swaged balls and a package of .54 cal. pre lubed patches. You'll need a powder measurer, powder horn, possible bag and a range rod is recommended. You can always get more, but this should be enough to punch holes in paper. Clean up with soap and water, dry and lightly oil. It sounds like a lot, but once you have it, it will be there for a long time. After you get into it, you'll start making your own lube, cutting your own patches, casting your own balls. The fun never ends. In my .54 Lyman Great Plains Rifle, I use 80 grains of Goex FFg. You can start at 60 grains and work up, 5 grains at a time, till you find the load your rifle likes. By the way, congrads on your rifle :thumbsup: and welcome to the forum :hatsoff: .
 
A complete accessory pkg. for the range rod would also be a big plus: ball puller for a dry-ball (forgot the powder), patch worm, jag, nipple pick , etc. Don't forget cleaning patches (centerfire sq. style o-k as long as they are 12 ga.). Welcome to the "Dark Side" :haha: All the best, Dave
 
Money, lots of Money unless your handy with your hands an can make a lot of it your self, thin its not to bad. Welcome to the MLF!!! Read and ask questions, there's always someone who will have the answer, just don't ask me I'm dumber than a rock!! :hatsoff: F.J.
 
Dang, forgot that one, snow. That's what happens when you get on the old side :rotf: . Smokin, the range rod I got from Dixie has all the attachments with it. Just try to keep things simple and basic to start with. A $15 horn will hold as much powder as a $150 horn and a $40 leather bag can carry as much gear as a $300 elk skin bag. This will get you what you need without making your initial expense so forbidding. You got a good start with your $100 T/C. Remember, T/C has a life time warranty. If you have problems with it contact T/C and they will most likely fix it for you for free. Good luck and enjoy :hatsoff: .
 
a bronze bore brush is good to have, and dont forget a nipple wrench, & its good to have a couple of spare nipples, a capping tool is handy though not necessary.
when you start cutting your own patches, patch lube of some sort, either commercial or many make they're own.
i like a 28 guage shotgun swab on a sg rod for cleaning, it fits the bore tightly and really scrubs well. i also keep some pipe cleaners and q tips for cleaning the hard to get to areas, and i use rubbing alcohol as my last swab down the barrel to help absorb moisture from water cleaning, on the q tips for getting into tight areas, and to soak my nipple in while cleaning the rifle.
a couple of small funnels are handy, i first cap off my nipple and fill the bbl with warm soapy water and let it sit 10 minutes or so to loosen fowling, then a short piece of clear plastic tube 3 feet or so long, that fits snugly on the nipple allows you to use a gallon jug of soap/water for cleaning, just drop the tube in your water container and pump your cleaning rod up and down the bore & hydraulic action sucks the cleaning fluid into and out of the bbl well.
Lastly its always a good idea to wear shooting glasses and hearing protection, same as any other firearms.
Keep a notebook of some kind to record load combinations and accuracy results, it can be as simple or complex as you want it to be, but at the minimum, powder type & charge, ball diameter and patch thickness, & group size & range distance.
this makes it easy to eliminate obviously bad load combinations and further pursue the ones that show promise. I also mark this onformation on targets, at least the promising loads, and store them in a loose leaf notebook along with my notes. easy to refer to and the visual aid tells me more than just a note about XXX sized group.
 
My list of "must have" do-dad's are:

Range Rod (optional but works great for cleaning/pulling bullets)
Cleaning Jag
Bullet Puller
Adjustable Powder measure
Powder Flask
Capper
Nipple Wrench
Wedge puller
Cleaning patches
Shooting Patches
Patch Lube (TC Natural Lube 1000 works well for me)
Hand rag
Bag/pouch to carry everything in

This should be enough to get ya started. A start up kit will include almost everything you need to get up an running fairly fast.

Regulis7
 
You can buy 'accesory kits' that have some essentials in them but a short starter is a near-neccesity. felt wads for overpowder are good to have. spent cartridge cases make good powder measures, pick up a 30-30 for plinking, an '06 for general use/target, and a 300 Win. mag for hunting load. any gun shop should have them or since you shoot some centerfires you may have some or know someone that does. Welcome to a great forum!!
 
To the excellent suggestions above I'd also get (or make) a t-handle that screws into the non-range rod (for when the jag gets stuck or you need to pull a bullet), a small safety pin works good for a nipple pick (or attaching the tag to your buck),grease/anti-seize for nipple threads, and several screwdrivers to fit the hardware on your gun.

If you are hunting a candle so you can seal the nipple/cap with wax and a little duct tape to do the same with the muzzle (just the end! don't make an obstruction).
 
What-ho Pilgrim, and welcome to the camp!

You've got more than enough suggestions here to fill a couple of possibles bags, but let me add an item so far unmentioned: a copy of the Lyman black powder handbook. It's available for a free download at:
[url] http://www.lymanproducts.com/lymanproducts/LymanUsersGuide.pdf[/url]

Forgive me please, if what I am about to say is already well-known to you, but there are several safety tips this handbook offers that, as a BP newbie, you may not already know.

Large among them: NEVER POUR FROM A POWDER HORN DIRECTLY INTO YOUR RIFLE! One latent spark down in your breech could turn your hand into hamburger and your face into something that would win first place in an ugly contest with Freddy Krueger!

The Lyman handbook runs 48 pages in the pdf format linked above. It may be the best 48 pages you'll ever read on the subject. I heartily recommend it to you! :thumbsup:
 
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:hatsoff: Icy
 
Welcome to an addiction! You have all ready recieved alot of good suggestions. Will give you one peice of advice though. Once you touch off that first load you will probably be hooked! :rotf: :rotf:
 
Lots of great suggestions that just about cover everything except for one thing I personally recommand.

You'll need extra cylinders, available in most sporting goods stores or on-line. each gas cylinder is good for one ejection. They are cheap and don't go bad. I bought an extra dozen from cabelas last time I was there.
[url] http://www.possibleshop.com/unloader.htm[/url]
 
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Thanks guys, I picked up some #11 caps and Pyrodex RS at the gunshop. Looks like I'll have to order the rest.
Oh and they are having a Spring Shoot and Rendezvous close by this weekend at a muzzle loader club, I'll go and talk to the people there... might even join the club.
 
In my opinion, a rendezvous or trade fair is a must. Great way to meet people and maybe even pick up some of your "possibles" from the hands that made them.

Also, you might check out National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association at[url] www.nmlra.org[/url].
Established in the 30s, it's stated purposed is to preserve the muzzleloading heritage and offers educational opportunities. It offers a basic muzzleloading manual (around $5) that's okay.
If nothing else, you'll get a kick out of the photos and information on their site.

Have fun. Be safe.
 
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Pittsburghunter said:
Bring your new rifle with you I am sure someone will help you get it shooting :hatsoff:

I would ditto this. When I had my Lyman Great Plains Rifle pretty much complete except for the metal finish, I was invited by Brett Sr. to come on up to the Forest Hills monthly shoot. Well I took my rifle up there just to show off, not planning on shooting at all. I didn't have any balls, patches, powder, etc. yet at that time. Well that wasn't any excuse for these guys, they set me up with some powder, balls, patches, measure, capper and said go at it. They MADE me shoot my GPR, and I'm durned glad I did. Hooking up with a club is the best thing you can do. You'll find that they will bend over backwards to help you get started (kinda like this forum :) )
Scott
 
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