Nice pattern.

[Britsmoothy]

Board is 20"x18".
Shot at 30 good strides.
1ounce plus. #7&#6 mixed.
Powder, 70gns of, well, you decide but to me it looks very close to 4f.

Wads were four thin overshot cards. One on top.

Dont dismiss the finer grades of powder just because someone says, "it doesn't work" or "its dangerous", "pressure is to high". "Blows patterns", "its to fast", blah blah blah.

B.

 

[Henry Miles]

Looks like a mixture to me 2F-4F. My Goex 4F looks a lot finer grained

 

[Britsmoothy]

Looks like a mixture to me 2F-4F. My Goex 4F looks a lot finer grained

It just says fine on the can.
It would be interesting if someone did the same photograph on a macro setting!
There may well be a small amount of larger size powder still in my flask.

 

[Historian]

Looks about like 3Fg with some 4Fg mixed in. Shoot it up

 

[smoothshooter]

View attachment 72347
Board is 20"x18".
Shot at 30 good strides.
1ounce plus. #7&#6 mixed.
Powder, 70gns of, well, you decide but to me it looks very close to 4f.
View attachment 72348
Wads were four thin overshot cards. One on top.

Dont dismiss the finer grades of powder just because someone says, "it doesn't work" or "its dangerous", "pressure is to high". "Blows patterns", "its to fast", blah blah blah.

B.

Looks like 3f and 2f mixed with some fines like 4f in there too.
I’m coming around to the idea of using 4f for something other than priming.
Going to try some in my Uberti Pocket Navy .36 to get the velocity up some this weekend.

 

[Sam squanch]

What is the barrel length on the gun you are shooting, please.

 

[deermanok]

Whatever it is, it sure punched some holes in your target board.

 

[adkmountainken]

defiantly some 2f in there

 

[adkmountainken]

90 grains 3f most definitely blows my pattern WIDE apart glad you got different results.

 

[George]

It would be interesting if someone did the same photograph on a macro setting!

Here ya go, Brits. Goex 4F.

Spence

 

[3Setters]

If that was 30 yards, that would work perfectly for me at 20-25 yards.

 

[biliff]

This is so full of vagaries as to be pretty much useless. Exactly how much shot by weight and what ratio of 7's to sixes? What is your "stride" length? The powder shown is claimed to look like 4 F, but it sure looks larger to me. The standard for patterning a shotgun is a 30 inch circle, not 20X18" and the pattern shown sure looks like it's showing large holes, especially at the 3 o'clock position. Also, one pattern doesn't really cut it as patterns vary over a series a shots. 3 patterns minimum, 5 patterns preferred, 10 to really make a convincing argument on a "good" load. Guage and choke information would also be helpful.

 

[user 49399]

I once knew an older gentleman who shot different types of antique muzzleloaders and used 1f, 2f or 3f, whatever he had on hand, in all of them. He said it didn't matter since he was only putting holes in paper.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Here ya go, Brits. Goex 4F.

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Spence

Thank you spence. Looks like I have closer to 3f than four.
Actually that was the consensus by this board via measuring grain size.
I sure wish I could get to try some of that in your measure. I bet 50 to 60 grain would be enough.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

I've never bothered using the standard 30" circle and counting all those pellet marks to calculate what % my pattern is. That sort of thing is for statisticians and folks with a lot of time on their hands. My method is to look at the pattern and see if there are any holes a rabbit or grouse could get through at whatever distance I'm shooting. If the pattern is full of holes I try different loads or depending on how the pattern prints I adjust the distance.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

Bullseye.

 

[Britsmoothy]

This is so full of vagaries as to be pretty much useless. Exactly how much shot by weight and what ratio of 7's to sixes? What is your "stride" length? The powder shown is claimed to look like 4 F, but it sure looks larger to me. The standard for patterning a shotgun is a 30 inch circle, not 20X18" and the pattern shown sure looks like it's showing large holes, especially at the 3 o'clock position. Also, one pattern doesn't really cut it as patterns vary over a series a shots. 3 patterns minimum, 5 patterns preferred, 10 to really make a convincing argument on a "good" load. Guage and choke information would also be helpful.

Your right. Its completely useless information. Wouldn't be of use to no one. Heck, it could all be make believe.

The gun is 12g. I don't think the Beretta was made in other gauges.
No chokes.
My strides are a good yard. Well, they were before I used my walker!
Ratio of mixed shot? No, I am not counting, I ain't that bored enough! And no, I am not carrying a 30" board around with me and no I am not carrying ten of them!
On reflection you do make a good point. There is some holes as you put it. However, for the targets I hunt they are acceptable to me.
B.

 

[Skychief]

Great looking pattern. I was going to ask if your Beretta threw it. I see above that it did indeed. Did you get it sorted out Brit' (Ignition-wise)?

Best regards, Skychief.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Great looking pattern. I was going to ask if your Beretta threw it. I see above that it did indeed. Did you get it sorted out Brit' (Ignition-wise)?

Best regards, Skychief.

Hello friend.
Its looking good so far Skychief. Breach plug now sealed. Also the long interconnecting flash channel is sealed.
The only thing is that if the nipple on the bottom barrel is seated tight and I load for the first shot I don't know if powder flowed along the long narrow channel to the nipple. So I keep it loose, load and then inspect. If powder is there I tighten the nipple down. It just guarantees first shot reliability because its that first shot that the biggest bird is going to show up, right!
Berti comes up well for wing shooting and carries well but not as well as a side by side. Berti is as heavy as I want a shotgun. I am only guessing but thing he is nudging 8lbs.

 

[Eterry]

This is so full of vagaries as to be pretty much useless. Exactly how much shot by weight and what ratio of 7's to sixes? What is your "stride" length? The powder shown is claimed to look like 4 F, but it sure looks larger to me. The standard for patterning a shotgun is a 30 inch circle, not 20X18" and the pattern shown sure looks like it's showing large holes, especially at the 3 o'clock position. Also, one pattern doesn't really cut it as patterns vary over a series a shots. 3 patterns minimum, 5 patterns preferred, 10 to really make a convincing argument on a "good" load. Guage and choke information would also be helpful.

What's the old saying..."There's Lies, Damned Lies. And Statistics!"

You may not agree with his methods but I know of No One who posts more pics of game taken with their muzzleloaders than Nate.
Britt, I tip my 10 gallon hat to you.