No wiping or swabbing he said!
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I love this guy. Watched so many of his videos.
No way did the mountain men, frontiers men and homesteads fiddle with swabbing, wiping and even cleaning how some do today.
They kept it simple and efficient.
I'd go as far as to say that the one most single deterrent to someone taking up traditional muzzloading is reading about the swabbing and wiping and cleaning regimens some insist upon!
The swabbing between shots deal, comes from the die hard target shooters.
Always enjoy his videos. I don't swab between shots and my cleaning process in pretty simple.
Not enough lube. During matches I used to just use spit. Now I use a squirt bottle full of winter blend windshield washer fluid. Soak my patch, squeeze it out and load. I can shoot a full 25 round match without cleaning. I do this with every rifle I own. I use a mink oil greasy patch for hunting. POI doesn’t change.
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Bore needs polishing ,see world class gun smith/builder and competition record holder Lee Shavers method works even with new barrels/America Long rifle Forum and member Daryls method of loading cause your combo of ball/patch is (WAY OFF) and last same member shows how he saves your patch by a crown improvement (200 grit and your thumb) . Do that and problem solved (with correct patch) ,you do the R+D /I have Ed
doubleset
50 Cal.
Or not the right lube, but figuring out what the right lube may be can turn out to be a tedious effort -- or a matter of luck.
I NEVER have had any problem with my Lyman GPR .50 cal. rifle in terms of fouling. But shooting my Crockett .32 has been a different matter. In both, I've been using Shuetzen (2f in the .50 and 3f in the .32). I've been trying about everything I could think of or find for a couple of months on the Crockett, but with no huge success. It would foul after no more than 5 or 6 shots and need to be swabbed. Meanwhile, I read postings from people who say they can shoot all day with the same rifle (or other .32) without swabbing at all.
And, oh yeah ... I'd lapped the bore early on as well. Had an effect on how easy it was to swab and clean, but not on fouling.
I'd settled on olive oil as about the best so far. Then a couple of days ago, after re-reading a bunch of postings for about the n-th time, I tried spraying some of my olive oil patches with a bit of Simple Green. MIRACLE!! Amazing! Now I have to see how patches with just the Simple Green (and without the olive oil) work.
Would that work for you? Who knows? But keep trying things and trying different amounts of lube, and wet vs. dry patches. It may take a while.
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When I started shooting league I was very surprised to find almost every one shot without swabbing. I had developed a very consistent shoot/wet swab, dry swab routine. Lo and behold, I discovered I was much better off not swabbing. Last saturday I shot thirty rounds (.54 cal. patched round ball 80 grains) with no need for swabbing between, simple clean up at the end.
Very cool video.
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His videos are always enjoyable to watch and learn from
KEWL Video! Love the whole thing. Did anyone else notice the video portion of the target after the shot? I could see the ball streak into the target! I subscribed and hit the notification bell. Just can't have enough channels of Black Powder related stuff in my subscribe list.
In ccccccold climates below freezing, like when I hunt, I use Track of the Wolf's mink oil as lube.
But in warmer climates, try the special Hoppe's Black Powder Patch Lube ... as one can shoot all day long and never swab! Even there with that liquid lube, I mimic Dutch Schoultz's method to determine 'how much lube is enough'; i.e., try 2 drops on each patch rubbed in, then 3-drops, then 4 drops etc., until YOU find the right amount of lube for your patch material, bore, roundball and load that gives you the accuracy you want and that alllows you to shoot all day ...
But in warmer climates, try the special Hoppe's Black Powder Patch Lube ... as one can shoot all day long and never swab! Even there with that liquid lube, I mimic Dutch Schoultz's method to determine 'how much lube is enough'; i.e., try 2 drops on each patch rubbed in, then 3-drops, then 4 drops etc., until YOU find the right amount of lube for your patch material, bore, roundball and load that gives you the accuracy you want and that alllows you to shoot all day ...
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It could be a number of things? I swabed between shots . I tried numerous ways to load and shoot but found that the greatest accuracy was obtained ,in my case as I stated.
Try 4f in the 32.
Bore Butter.
doubleset
50 Cal.
Well, at the moment there seems to be no need to switch from 3f. I'm all for trying 4f, but I don't think I'll run out and try to buy a pound of it right now just for that.
Maybe I can borrow some.Actually, at some point -- after I get the 3f loading/cleaning/sighting as settled as I can (and it's very close now) -- I'm going to try 2f since I have several pounds of that. Just in the interest of science, if nothing else. But I'll give 4f a go at some point.
