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A professor once told me if I ever had an original idea it would die of loneliness ... so I'm sure someone has thought of this before.

Anyway I have several old nomex flight suits and I was wondering if anyone had every used nomex as a patch for roundball? Being "fire-proof" it should eliminate burn through ...
 
If the thickness was right and it held the lube right, I don't see why not. It's certainly flame proof.

Huh.... Maybe you've found the answer for smoldering patches in drought conditions! :thumbsup:

I'm the curious sort, so I'm interested in your results, including thickness measures. In my part of the world there is no shortage of old flight suits.
 
To work well as a patch, the Nomex would need to be thicker than the groove depth in the barrel in order to seal.

This might not be a problem with the barrels made by TC and others with .005-.008 deep grooves but some most of the roundball barrels from Getz, Green Mountain, Rice, Colerain and others use rifling that is .010-.015 deep.
 
colorado clyde said:
:youcrazy: .....cost prohibitve....inline methodolgy
but I look forward to your test results.
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Puts me in mind of the depleted uranium frizzen liners. Might work real well,but is another step away from traditional.
 
I haven't tried it but read in Sam Fadala's book about using hornet's nest material ahead of the patch to prevent burning. I just thought about that when I noticed a hornet's nest attached to a chunk of firewood I was about to toss into the stove a couple of days ago. I saved to nest. Probably won't try if for a while, however. Not much fire danger here right now.
 
Maybe you've found the answer for smoldering patches in drought conditions
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We have had excellent results with greased deerskin ( or some other thin hide) patches.
No smoldering, good accuracy, if found they can sometimes be reused.

yhs
shunka
 
I was just thinking of making do with what I got. It's what my grandparents did on their little farm in N Texas and they weren't much removed from totally self sufficient. I remember my granddad asking how many rabbits grandmom needed for dinner ... and that is how many shells he'd take for his Parker. If it was squirrels he'd take his model 62 and a dozen or so 22 ... He always came back with what grandmom asked for ...

Almost hope it doesn't work because my wife threw out a half dozen old flight suits last year. But I still have some just taking up space ...
 
I'm in the process of reading all the older posts. It appears the use of nomex for patches was examined in June of 2005. The consensus was it would not work ...

Dang ...
 
I tried some Nomex from the long cuff of my fire pants. It did not work well, but I don't remember why. It is thick and tight enough and looked really good, but I gave up on it.
 
Patch burn out is usually caused by one or more of 3 things....
Poor patch material
poor lube
Rough or sharp barrel.

Have you addressed these items?

I don't understand people's obsession with trying to improve muzzleloading technology with modern materials....Every fault that a muzzleloader has was fixed in the later 1800's when the cartridge gun was perfected.... :idunno:
 
colorado clyde said:
Patch burn out is usually caused by one or more of 3 things....
Poor patch material
poor lube
Rough or sharp barrel.

Have you addressed these items?

I don't understand people's obsession with trying to improve muzzleloading technology with modern materials....Every fault that a muzzleloader has was fixed in the later 1800's when the cartridge gun was perfected.... :idunno:
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:applause: :applause: :applause:

I don't get it either... Why? It's like trying to fix something that isn't broke. Muzzleloaders have been around ALLOT longer than anyone on this planet, as to which no need to reinvent the wheel that needs no reinventing.

Sure, for your own personal curiosity I guess you can shove anything down a barrel you want. One thing that stands out to me is nomex isn't going to be biodegradable like cotton or linen. Therefore I wouldn't be shooting it... I pick up enough trash in the woods as is... :doh:
 
I agree with garbage in the woods.

However, it is human nature to try improve on things. We would not be were we are today without that innate urge to try to make things better.

For some people the journey is not the shooting, it is the tinkering and fussing with stuff.

If the only shooting I did was on hanging steel targets finding an accurate load is simple. If I am trying to shoot a 100 10x on paper to set a new record, that is a different journey.

Fleener
 
I'm not really trying to fix a dang thing. I've got a bunch of old nomex flight suits that will probably end up in the dump if I don't come up with a use for them. For every round I fire in the woods I fire a few hundred at the range and I'm one of the "volunteers" that helps clean up at the range.

I brought it up here because I thought among all the folks here someone might have already tried it.Generally one of the great things about a forum like this is the wheel doesn't have to be constantly reinvented.

I've ordered a cheap micrometer and when I get it I'll have some idea which old flight suit to cut up first, the calibration having gone out of my fingers. Now I just have to figure out which gun to try it in. I have an idea it will be the old CVA just in case it turns into molten glop in the barrel and I have a spare barrel for that rifle someone gave me ...

Oh and Herb thank you. That's what I was looking for. I'll try just a few heavy loads and see what happens ...
 
You may have found the missing link that our ancestors have missed for hundreds of years.

Nomex isn't a traditional material and certainly one not many have even probably considered using. By all means, try it and see! Nothing is holding you back. The vast majority of users here stick to the traditions of old. We hear of many "modern marvel solutions". Please don't be offended, there are purist and there are those who care less! It's a two way street.

I'd venture to say, (in the case of my flight suits) the material is far to thick for patching. I'd bet you'd have one heck of a time ramming it home. Seating a ball and patch shouldn't require a hammer, I can just imagine with nomex you certainly would need one unless your using an undersized ball. :idunno: :hatsoff:
 
Wasn't trying to offend anyone.....It's just that fireproof fabric is not a proper solution to the problem of patch burnout.... It doesn't solve the problem....it only mitigates it.... :v
 

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