Non-Availability of Imports From Italy

[Nameless Hunter]

I loved visiting Italy .. friendly people, great food and wonderful old towns. And the scenery is spectacular. Dale

I agree! Used to work for a company that had it's HQ just north of Milan.
Really liked the people!

 

[NorthFork]

@ormond tony

You said "I guess they would have to repay millions and millions of Euros if they just stopped making firearms all together."

Care to elaborate on this sentence? Why would Uberti, Pedersoli, etc have to repay anything?

 

[stevie]

I recently purchased two Piettas both had 20 in the box.

 

[stevie]

Did you get that Uberti 181 from wholesale hunter?

 

[Two Feathers]

Howdy folks:
Just my $0.02, but I find it hysterical that y'all are talking about Italy not producing BP rifles anymore (or in limited runs) and Lyman is advertising Pedersoli Great Plains Signature Series rifles on our home and forum pages? Guess Lyman didn't get the memo yet?
God bless:
Two Feathers

 

[SPQR70AD]

it is fear of the virus disrupting normal life across the globe. in Italy over 90% of the deaths were people over 70. because of their diet they have long life spans

 

[Billy Boy]

Did you ask him why ?

China has other colonies that are more important than Italy..

 

[Jay Templin]

I ordered a Uberti loading lever and the screw for it from Taylor’s back in March or April for my 1860 Army. They backordered the lever with no indication of how long it’ll take, but sent the screw. Which meant that I paid more to have the blasted thing shipped than I did to buy it in the first place.

 

[Carbon 6]

China has other colonies that are more important than Italy..

What does china have to do with it ?

 

[BJm]

anyone who mouths the word ''China'' needs to be slapped

 

[Carbon 6]

anyone who mouths the word ''China'' needs to be slapped

 

[Billy Boy]

What does china have to do with it ?

Italy was the initial European epicenter for the virus - China brought in tens of thousands of workers to rebuild parts of the Italian railroad system, Bob’s your uncle, Companies building the stuff we need were hit by work force losses, closures, just like us. China now also controls a fair piece of the national banking system there related to the construction financing and other issues.

 

[Carbon 6]

Italy was the initial European epicenter for the virus - China brought in tens of thousands of workers to rebuild parts of the Italian railroad system, Bob’s your uncle, Companies building the stuff we need were hit by work force losses, closures, just like us. China now also controls a fair piece of the national banking system there related to the construction financing and other issues.

It's like a brush fire, what's important isn't who started it but who sits and watches it burn.
It's hard to point fingers or assign motives when there are so many winners and losers.

But, none of this answers my question or what it has to do with gun availability. I can still get everything else I want from Italy now, including yeast and we all know how hard that was to find.

 

[Zonie]

It's like a brush fire, what's important isn't who started it but who sits and watches it burn.
It's hard to point fingers or assign motives when there are so many winners and losers.

But, none of this answers my question or what it has to do with gun availability. I can still get everything else I want from Italy now, including yeast and we all know how hard that was to find.

Well then. How do you explain the shortage of muzzleloaders from Italy in the American marketplace?

 

[Kansas Jake]

I suspect it is related to the serious problem with covid they experienced earlier as has been noted. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories but reality. Shut downs related to their national response to the pandemic coupled with other industries (steel) etc. which exacerbated the problem. Also, there has been a run on firearms and ammunition of all types in this country and maybe in others as well. What happens? A shortage.

 

[Nameless Hunter]

For some real news on manufacturing in Italy (not speculation)...
https://www.focus-economics.com/cou...mprove-at-fastest-pace-in-over-two-and-a-half

 

[Carbon 6]

Well then. How do you explain the shortage of muzzleloaders from Italy in the American marketplace?

I thought I explained it once, but I think you deleted it.
It's easy to grab the most convenient answer, especially when you don't have to back it up. Maybe someone should ask the manufacturers directly. Just saying it's "covid" really doesn't tell us anything.
Why is/was there an aluminum can shortage when scrap aluminum prices are at their lowest ?

 

[Nameless Hunter]

I thought I explained it once, but I think you deleted it.
It's easy to grab the most convenient answer, especially when you don't have to back it up. Maybe someone should ask the manufacturers directly. Just saying it's "covid" really doesn't tell us anything.
Why is/was there an aluminum can shortage when scrap aluminum prices are at their lowest ?

In looking for plausible/logical reasons, corona virus would land at the top of my list. Pedersoli and Investarms are located very close to each other (just east of Milan), and the Milan area was one of Italy's first major hotspot of the virus. I used to work for some Italians in the Milan area and they told me their area was significantly affected by the virus. Saying Italian yeast was easy to get doesn't necessarily translate to getting manufactured goods for the area around Milan, especially if the yeast came from the southern half of Italy, which wasn't hit as hard.

 

[SDSmlf]

I thought I explained it once, but I think you deleted it.
It's easy to grab the most convenient answer, especially when you don't have to back it up. Maybe someone should ask the manufacturers directly. Just saying it's "covid" really doesn't tell us anything.
Why is/was there an aluminum can shortage when scrap aluminum prices are at their lowest ?

True, kind of like disagreeing with everyone no matter the topic, just because.
As mentioned in an earlier post, I deal with a number of equipment and machine suppliers (nothing to do with manufacturing of firearms, aluminum cans, yeast or red herrings) in Italy and their delivery dates have been pushed way out, six, eight to even twelve months, and get this, they are blaming the Covid, or at least the effects of Covid. Seems the disruption of their supply chains, mandated lockdowns, workforces getting sick and staying home, sub suppliers going out business, the redirecting of resources to manufacture critical medical equipment and supplies, etc, are the ‘lame’ excuses they are using.
I have not, nor do I desire to, visit them at this time (not even sure I could get there if I wanted to) so I have to take their word for it. They seem to be doing everything they can to get caught up, but are very fearful of a second wave of Covid.
Guess it to difficult to imagine some of these convenient ‘excuses’ spilling over into the Italian firearms manufacturing industry.

 

[Carbon 6]

kind of like disagreeing with everyone no matter the topic, just because.

Everyone ?
If you are correct in your assertions, they should be able to withstand whatever critique I can throw at them.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I deal with a number of equipment and machine suppliers (nothing to do with manufacturing of firearms, aluminum cans, yeast or red herrings) in Italy and their delivery dates have been pushed way out, six, eight to even twelve months, and get this, they are blaming the Covid, or at least the effects of Covid. Seems the disruption of their supply chains, mandated lockdowns, workforces getting sick and staying home, sub suppliers going out business, the redirecting of resources to manufacture critical medical equipment and supplies, etc, are the ‘lame’ excuses they are using.
I have not, nor do I desire to, visit them at this time (not even sure I could get there if I wanted to) so I have to take their word for it. They seem to be doing everything they can to get caught up, but are very fearful of a second wave of Covid.
Guess it to difficult to imagine some of these convenient ‘excuses’ spilling over into the Italian firearms manufacturing industry.

I'm not saying covid isn't a factor. Just that it's like saying "that's life".
I like to dig a little deeper, I like more detailed explanations, rather than the same old "it is what it is" routine.