Non Wipers Only.

[Eutycus]

You're right about losing the patch doesnt haopen very often but arent you grateful for that worm when it does happen.It happened to me several years ago and the incident caught me without a worm. I quickly constructed one. I unwrapped an old bore brush, the kind with the wire spiraled or twisted around the center or core of the brush.Its not the prettiest thing in the world but it has gotten the job done. And has several times.

 

[arcticap]

Yes, lucky for you that it worked.
On occasion when I couldn't find the worm, I had to use a paper clip fashioned into a patch hooking device.
Twisted the paper clip around a patch loop and went fishing.

 

[Eutycus]

I just had to remember to twist the wires in the same direction as the threads on the old brush. Other wise it would unscrew from the rod. But it worked. Rocket science, huh?

 

[Eutycus]

My "device"

 

[WRustyLane]

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My "device"

Yep. I use old t-shirts that have become "holey" to use as cleaning patches. I usually cut them 3 or 4 inches square. So far I haven't lost one down in the barrel, but I do like yer home made patch jag made from a brush. I think that I shall do that also. Thanks for the idea!

 

[Bent Sight]

Well I guess I asked for that one. Pushing fouling into the breech area is one reason that I never even considered when I posted about wiping as being time consumming. But it is the only reason posted so far.

That's the reason I wipe the barrel after 20-25 shots.

 

[Eutycus]

At least theres no doubt as to it fitting on the end of your range rod. It already fit once.

 

[Kansas Kid]

Shot my 50 IH flint 38” colerain bbl .490 ball .018 ticking 60gr 2f Elephant last Saturday. Used hopes 9 plus with no wiping. It was a shoot from bag woods walk, so used the 9mm wood rod on rifle and it loaded fine. I did make the shooting patches a little wetter because of loading with wood rod. Cleaning afterwards was much easier than last time with the same amount of shots but wiping after each.

Rifle is still being somewhat of a pain in the rear but better. Vent is @ .067 dia and it has a notched breech plug which I’m about to pull it and counter bore to groove dia to get rid of the dreadful notch.

 

[Grenadier1758]

The notch might be dreadful, but counterboring to the groove diameter may be more dreadful than leaving it alone.

 

[Kansas Kid]

The notch might be dreadful, but counterboring to the groove diameter may be more dreadful than leaving it alone.

I have a 14x46” lathe so it won’t be too hard. Besides the stock has too much fat left on it and it would be a good time for some liposuction.

 

[Grenadier1758]

When you counterbore the breech plug, try not to take off any of your threads to try to prevent dreadful build up of fouling and the consequence being rust at the breech plug-barrel interface.

There are a lot of original rifles with the notch in the breech face. Use a dental flossing brush to keep the notch clean.

 

[Kansas Kid]

I won’t alter plug to breech interface, if there is not enough material I may just put a radius on the plug face. Ordered new white lighting touch hole liner as I’ll remove that first just in case it’s against the plug threads.

 

[Grenadier1758]

While you have your breech plug out and alter the face to a radius, you should make a breech scraper that matches the new breech face. Sounds like good plan to me.

 

[Kansas Kid]

While you have your breech plug out and alter the face to a radius, you should make a breech scraper that matches the new breech face. Sounds like good plan to me.

We’re thinking alike, got some aluminum nickel bronze for the scraper.

 

[Eutycus]

You got me curious, what does a notched breech do that makes it so "dreadful"?

 

[shane a gress]

You got me curious, what does a notched breech do that makes it so "dreadful"?

To add to it, what does a notched breech look like.

 

[Kansas Kid]

It’s basically a V shape notch/trough starting at the center of the breech plug face leading to the touch hole. IMHO is there because the touch hole is to far back or allows the use of large touch hole liners.

Just another place for fouling to collect that is hard to clean out.

 

[Eutycus]

I agree it probably could collect fouling. But don't most manufacturers have a engineer on hand who would know just where the touch hole is to be placed?

 

[shane a gress]

Would it also allow you to get powder behind a dry ball?

 

[hanshi]

As an aside, I found that ball pullers work better at removing patches than the patch worms do.