-----had my 58 loaded with 80 gr. goex 3f in November for deer hunting--didn't get a shot so I kept it loaded till about 3 weeks ago--pulled the ball and powder--dumped the powder out of the barrel onto the pick nick table--forgot about it--stayed on the table through the rain and wind--found it the other day--it was hard and not too good looking--layed it on a paper towel then lit the towel--when the flame got to the powder it ignited just fine----- :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: