opinions wanted

I saw this on TOTW web page[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com...CATID=12&SUBID=81&STYLEID=284&PARTNUM=AAC-592[/url] and thought it would make a good goose and duck gun. Please bear in mind I have never shot a flinter and really do not know what I am looking at. But I figure 10ga should be large enough for some very brave gesse I have living near me. Can anyone see anything wrong with this gun that would make it a bad shooter?

 

[jelder24]

I cant think of any reason it wouldnt be a good goose gun, especially with it being 10 gauge. Nice looking too...

 

[RickD]

I`ve purchased 4 flitlock rifles from TOTW and have been pleased with all of them..The gun your thinking of buying I`ve had my eye on it also.

 

[tg]

The only issue I see would be whether it fits you well enough for wing shooting.....only one way to find out about that, not a bad price for a gun with quality parts, if you are into HC the barrel/furniture finish could be changed, keep us posted if you go for it.

 

[Mike Brooks]

I'll bet dollars to donuts it kicks like a mule with that much drop.

 

[RickD]

Well Mike that was my thought..

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

It might not be so bad--it does weigh 10.4 lbs. It looks to be a rugged old thing, too. I have a 10 bore fowler coming that will be 3 pounds or more lighter than this one, and I don't expect recoil to be a problem.

 

[RickD]

Good point weight makes a difference..I have a heavy .54 cal I use for bench and stick shooting,weighs 10.4 pounds

 

[ffffg]

muzzeloaders can be loaded down to any load you want as long as you dont exceed the max load.. 10 guages are probably the best all around gauge for geese.. they are very tough critters, especially when in full plumage in winter.. and bb bismuth is the best ive found, and it takes quite a bit of it and its expensive.. the biggest problem with that gun is the stock drop is very much leaving your head up well above the comb to be on the mark.. if it does come in contact with your cheeck while jolting back and up it will hurt, ruining any chance of your being a good shotgun shot.. lightloads will just pop at that weight and it wont kick at all.. im not worried about you getting slapped in the face as that can be fixed, but your head will be floating over the low comb not really being able to point very well.. all my shotguns are raised at the comb to make the eye the rear sight for pointing.. and this stock would take quite a bit of raising.. stock drop at the heel actually reduces felt recoil forcing the muzzel up and not as much back into the shooter.. cast off also helps reduce felt recoil.. the main thing is that the comb rises slightly as it measures away from the muzzel.this one falls away from the muzzel andit will force the cheekpiece into your face as it recoils. and that can be murder, but your head will not be any wear near the stock,which is a pointing problem with most traditional guns.. in my opinion it needs a new stock but you can hunt with it till then.. the proper stock for shooting moving game would not be liked by anyone in the traditional sence.. so do you want a flint lock, do you want a traditional gun, or do
you want to kill a goose effectively?.. this gun is a flintlock, i dont know if its design is traditional.... you could look at a side by side cabelas 10 gauge if your not used to flintlocks.. flintlocks are a bugger to learn how to shoot moving game, and being single barrel you will usually need a dog or boat(unless your decoying into a field).. the gun can knock them down, and with single shot your pretty much in trouble while th goose simply swims away without a swatter load for a second shot.. look at this sxs[url] http://www.cabelas.com/cabela...x=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=shotgun++&noImage=0[/url] with chokes you can go to 12 guage for geese...dave.

 

I have a smokeless powder 10ga that kicks like it's mad at me. I may have to pass on this one, no need in having 2 guns that hurt to shoot. Although it could be loaded down, or up, that is the beauty of not being confined to what will fit in a cartridge.

However, it still does'nt change the fact that I like the way the gun looks.

 

We have got two labradors to catch any wounded. I want to try a flinter for the sport of it. I understand it could be a bugger to learn to hit anything flying with a flintlock though.

thanks to all for the advice :v

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

A good deal of the pleasure in using a flintlock of any description is in working up loads and learning to use the gun well. It's good to keep in mind that this is not rocket science--quite the opposite in fact. And we are supposed to be having fun here.

 

[Rebel]

Black powder recoil is a whole lot different than smokeless powder recoil. I have a Navy Arms double barrel .12 ga that weighs less than 7 lbs and even with heavy loads of 100 gr of powder and 1 1/2 oz of shot the recoil isn't bad. If that flinter weighs over 10 lbs i doubt that recoil would be a factor. Swinging it on passing birds might be though. Course once you got it moving follow through should be built in. :grin:

 

I have a sneaking suspicion you gents are trying to talk me into this gun. :rotf:

With the stock dropping like it does do you think it would make shooting ball harder than say the avg, NW trade gun? I have a rifle for deer but I think it would be fun to piddle with shooting ball at the range.

 

[Rebel]

The way it shoots ball has a whole lot to do with how the gun Fits YOU. Your head needs to mount on the same every time in order to get decent groups. Some people like a lot of drop. A friend of mine has a Fusil de Chasse and when i first saw it i thought it looked terribly uncomfortable, but afer throwing it up to my shoulder i was amazed at how good it felt. So you would really need to shoulder the gun and see how it feels to make a final decision.