Orginal 1861 value and worth a reline?

[Steveoko922]

Have a shot to pluck a few orginal CW rifles from a very old collection. I've never had the chance to handle orginal peices and was wondering what these rifles a worth to more experienced eyes. Both the p53 and 1861 are being offered for less than $900. The 1861 looks like the bore isn't great and worth a reline, the p53 looks better but will know more when I can drop a light down. Please help a younger collector out.

 

[dave951]

We in the N-SSA often shoot originals and do have them relined. That said, a rifle with provenance, that is to a specific individual or battle, will be preserved as is. Guns that are clearly museum quality, or rare, will be preserved as is. Guns that are what we call "shooter grade", ones assembled from parts, or have no provenance other than being an example, or ones that were butchered in the past, can be up for a reline to return them to usable status.

The question really comes down to- are the guns significant in a specific historic context. Ones with documented Confederate provenance, do not alter under any circumstance.

 

[Steveoko922]

We in the N-SSA often shoot originals and do have them relined. That said, a rifle with provenance, that is to a specific individual or battle, will be preserved as is. Guns that are clearly museum quality, or rare, will be preserved as is. Guns that are what we call "shooter grade", ones assembled from parts, or have no provenance other than being an example, or ones that were butchered in the past, can be up for a reline to return them to usable status.

The question really comes down to- are the guns significant in a specific historic context. Ones with documented Confederate provenance, do not alter under any circumstance.

That information I do not have, however the p53 is a British Govt issue and not tied to the CW. The 1861 does not seem to hold any significance other than having a sound stock and no missing or damaged parts.

 

[rhart]

Jump on either or both for under $900.00! I will purchase either from you for $900.00...

 

[dave951]

That information I do not have, however the p53 is a British Govt issue and not tied to the CW. The 1861 does not seem to hold any significance other than having a sound stock and no missing or damaged parts.

If that's the case, reline and get them back into working order

 

[appalichian hunter]

YEP 900 DOLLARS FOR BOTH, WHY HAVENT YOU BOUGHT THEM YET.

 

[Steveoko922]

YEP 900 DOLLARS FOR BOTH, WHY HAVENT YOU BOUGHT THEM YET.

900 each still a good price?

 

[appalichian hunter]

Without having the rifles in hand and going on the pictures yes. If you buy them I would give you 900 dollars for the 61

 

[TransYank]

I have an 1861 Springfield that was contracted by Savage with a spotless all original lock and all other metal. It has an old stock repair at the last band then when the barrel is out you can see the Glass bedding. I shot this in NSSA competition all thru the 1980's and replaced the original barrel with a YECK barrel. Traded the original barrel and have come to regret that. Still wouldn't sale for $900.00.

 

[Packrat]

Years ago I was in New Orleans, there is a antique place right in Jackson Square, they had a number of 61's and P3 asking about 4K. You could pick one up any where else for about $700.00 and that was 25 years ago