Osage Orange for ramrods?

[sportster73hp]

I have a lot of ash sawn and yet to be sawed . I wouldn’t even know how to make a proper ramrod. If i did i would make a dozen or so for future projects.

 

[PEARL DRUMS]

I tried to make osage arrows. They are extra flexible and wouldnt spine up. I have a suspicion a ram rod would be worse at the extra length required.

 

[N.Y. Yankee]

I brake at least one hickory rod a month, interested on how this turns out.

I have never broken a wood rod. Had the cap come off one end of a factory wood rod once with a jag on it. My fault, didn't pin it first.

 

[longcruise]

I have a lot of ash sawn and yet to be sawed . I wouldn’t even know how to make a proper ramrod. If i did i would make a dozen or so for future projects.

I use a Veritas doweler which is excellent for speed and more production but there is a simple and economical method that is very well illustrated in the link below. It's about arrow shafts but the methodology is the same for making ram rods. The only difference is that in making ram rods you will need a jig long enough to make the rods of interest.

 

[Ohio Rusty]

Osage is my favorite material for hammer handles. You can pound as hard as you need to when smithing and the head won't break off the handle. With that kind of toughness, and osage ramrod should easily last a lifetime as you won't abuse it that much.
Ohio Rusty ><>

 

[SeaBee133]

Osage is my favorite material for hammer handles. You can pound as hard as you need to when smithing and the head won't break off the handle. With that kind of toughness, and osage ramrod should easily last a lifetime as you won't abuse it that much.
Ohio Rusty ><>

Have a hatchet head hung on an osage shoot. Literally growing the head into the handle.

 

[PathfinderNC]

I brake at least one hickory rod a month, interested on how this turns out.

You need to work on that

 

[waksupi]

Osage has great flex, but sucks at compression. If you are in the habit of tamping hard, they can split along the grain.

 

[morehops52]

The weak rod is the factory Interarm issued oil finished mystery wood.
Only “problem” with Osage is it outgasses while turning from Mt Dew yellow to ochre as it dries. It stinks, bad.
Oh, it also sparks, and eats chisels.

Eats chain saw chains too.

 

[smoothshooter]

Have a perfectly straight wind killed bois d’arc that will be split for bow staves. Thinking that the narrow “scrap” splits might make servicable ramrod billets.
If you have not used it, the wood wears like iron. Anvil stable, and twice as tough. I already use small scraps in my traditional forge, it burns as nice as anthracite, just watch for sparks.
The ramrod for my .54 GPR is about as stable as green willow twigs, i.e., not very. I have a couple hundred Osage trees that are select pruned by local traditional bowyers. I prefer wood to fiberglass or metal. Dowel sizing/shaping jig “should” produce a consistent rod blank. Works fine with iron bark elm.
Feasible? Thanks y’all

As a side note, in the mid-1970’s I once had to cut up about 30 old hedge fence posts of approximately 3 to 5 inches in diameter when clearing out an old fence row on an old farm that were positively known to have been driven into the ground at least 50 years prior.
They were tough as nails and still a little green on the inside. Crooked as could be, and so hard it was almost impossible to drive a nail or steeple into them.
I also know of a 10” diameter hedge corner post that had been set in the ground for 75 years and was not rotted or loose in the ground and was still in use.

Just thought someone might find my stories of interest.

 

[Rifleman1776]

morehops52 said of Osage Orange wood:
"It stinks, bad"
I have worked OO extensively for many years. I still have a stash in dry storage waiting for projects. Never have I noticed any odor of any kind.

 

[Century to late]

As a side note, in the mid-1970’s I once had to cut up about 30 old hedge fence posts of approximately 3 to 5 inches in diameter when clearing out an old fence row on an old farm that were positively known to have been driven into the ground at least 50 years prior.
They were tough as nails and still a little green on the inside. Crooked as could be, and so hard it was almost impossible to drive a nail or steeple into them.
I also know of a 10” diameter hedge corner post that had been set in the ground for 75 years and was not rotted or loose in the ground and was still in use.

Just thought someone might find my stories of interest.

They will outlast the holes.

 

[smoothshooter]

They will outlast the holes.

 

[smoothshooter]

The weak rod is the factory Interarm issued oil finished mystery wood.
Only “problem” with Osage is it outgasses while turning from Mt Dew yellow to ochre as it dries. It stinks, bad.
Oh, it also sparks, and eats chisels.

Would tend to warp too, wouldn’t it?
It is sort of a miracle wood, though.

 

[Wncman]

Would tend to warp too, wouldn’t it?
It is sort of a miracle wood, though.

It’s a springy wood. It’s used for bows. It should be riven and then smoothed. I touch if oil hand rubbed will help from warping I’d think. A little warp helps keep secure in the thimbles

 

[Robin101]

Very abrasive wood, use a muzzle protector if you decide to go that way.
Robin

 

[waksupi]

Very abrasive wood, use a muzzle protector if you decide to go that way.
Robin

I've never noticed it to be abrasive. When making bows, I have always easily taken it to a polished surface.

 

[PEARL DRUMS]

I've made several hundreds osage bows and a hundred more from every suitable wood in NA. Here is what I know for fact.

It is incredibly strong in tension and compression. Strongest in NA.

It's the most stable wood species in NA

It is not abrasive

It does not easily warp. No amount of oil, poly or sealer can stop warping in any wood

Hickory is the worst at everything I mentioned, except its tension strength is incredible. Its easy warped, very hydroscopic and absorbs ambient moisture like a sponge.

The reason osage would make a bad ram rod is because its very flexible. It would be like stuffing a soft cooked noodle up a wildcat's butt.

 

[Harry Marinakis]

It would be like stuffing a soft cooked noodle up a wildcat's butt.

Please tell us how you know that.

 

[PEARL DRUMS]

There's a story behind that I cant tell in detail on here. Let's just say I was picking on my very aged grandpa one day and he used that phrase to make his point I laughed so hard and never forgot it.