hanshi
Cannon
Never used anything other than patched round ball for hunting going on 55 years.
I’m certainly looking forward to personally seeing what a PRB can do.
Not too sure that there is a lot more to it. This was or had been the old farmers prime breeding pig for some years and even though it was dangerous he had preserved it every Fall. The whole community drove the pigs into the hog pens every October. Everyone knew and sort of hated the pig but like all the others he was rounded up. I remember that there was some concern how they would move him home from the pens because he would gore horses and people but some local Indians agreed for a price to move him and then baited him for miles to the farmers home. But when he arrived he attacked the owner and I believe he broke his leg. Anyway, he decided it was not worth the risk so He just shot the pig in the head at close range with a .74 caliber ball. When butchering the big boy he kept pulling initialed balls from the pig. Some were returned to their owners and stories of how and why they had tried to put the pig down over several years came to light. One thing I wondered was how tainted the meat would have been by having 13 lead balls leeching lead into it.I’d love to hear more of the story if you don’t mind.
Not too sure that there is a lot more to it. This was or had been the old farmers prime breeding pig for some years and even though it was dangerous he had preserved it every Fall. The whole community drove the pigs into the hog pens every October. Everyone knew and sort of hated the pig but like all the others he was rounded up. I remember that there was some concern how they would move him home from the pens because he would gore horses and people but some local Indians agreed for a price to move him and then baited him for miles to the farmers home. But when he arrived he attacked the owner and I believe he broke his leg. Anyway, he decided it was not worth the risk so He just shot the pig in the head at close range with a .74 caliber ball. When butchering the big boy he kept pulling initialed balls from the pig. Some were returned to their owners and stories of how and why they had tried to put the pig down over several years came to light. One thing I wondered was how tainted the meat would have been by having 13 lead balls leeching lead into it.
Another related story. I am 68 today. When I was about 18 or so I was shooting a smoothbore .69 with 3 ring conical bullets (I know makes no sense, but I was) and by mistake, fired one into a large oak tree. I had missed my shot and I did not notice the shot striking there. Then about 1995, my father called and was really excited for me to see something. A large oak had fallen below his house and he was sawing it up for firewood. The saw had cut perfectly through the middle of that .69 conical minie and it was perfectly visible in a slice he cut out. He thought he had found a Civil War period minie ball. I had to disillusion him. But what was more, surrounding that ball was a round, probably 10" in diameter circle of poisoned, gray wood where the ball had been killing that tree since the late 1960s. I can just imagine how much faster that lead from those rifle balls probably leeched into that pork. 'Course in 1820, they didn't even know that heavily leaded pewter would kill you. And the natural taste of lead is sweet for some odd reason. So they might have not considered that pork corrupted. I would not have eaten it!!
The folks over 90 in our community who have kept so many of the local lore alive are slipping away from us now faster and faster. And due to folks wanting homes in the mountains, half the county residents at this time have lived here less than 15 years. All the stories will be lost. Happy to pass a few more along if you are interested. My home here was built originally in 1838, added to in 1915 and finally again in 1964. We inherited the house from family in 2010. With the house came a good bit of weird spooky history as well as some we are still trying to pry open!
I can just imagine how much faster that lead from those rifle balls probably leeched into that pork.
HINT: Don't drink any more of the blue Koolaide.I would think that the pig would have died from lead poisoning if it had leeched into the meat.
Next year for deer season I will be switching to round ball. To date I have only used maxi's.
HINT: Don't drink any more of the blue Koolaide.
Not sure of your meaning. I personally saw the huge discolored area in that oak log section. Would the lead not have leeched into the pork if it had been shot repeatedly over a couple of years? And would it not be toxic? I have no idea.HINT: Don't drink any more of the blue Koolaide.
Not sure of your meaning. I personally saw the huge discolored area in that oak log section. Would the lead not have leeched into the pork if it had been shot repeatedly over a couple of years? And would it not be toxic? I have no idea.
So in future I'll make sure my balls are shiny! shooting smoothbore all the time, I've been neglectful and shot a fair number of whiter ones over the years...hahaNope.
Lead poisoning comes from lead oxide, not plain lead, in most cases of which I've read. It's a white powder that was used a lot as an oil based paint pigment, and it is reported to have a slight sweet taste. It was the lead oxide in the paint chips in cheap, welfare dwellings that was poisoning the kids in the 1970's. Doctors regularly leave lead bullets in gunshot victims so long as the slug itself isn't interfering with the actions of the body.
Waterfowl would get lead poisoning from ingesting old shot that had oxidized on the bottom of a lake or pond. They would dive down to get some "pebbles" for their digestive tract, and lead pellets apparently feel like pebbles. These would stay in the duck for a while and transfer the oxide that had formed, and poison the animals.
KΔLIFOЯИIÁ has a ban in many areas if not the whole state on lead projectiles, supposedly because condors are ingesting lead bullets or pellets from wounded game that gets away and later dies. It might be a problem for ingesting shot though highly unlikely unless the hunters were using "reclaimed shot", but not likely at all for a rifle bullet (imho), and if the birds are showing lead contamination, I'd submit that the lead projectile vector is darn poor science, and if they are serious about preserving the species, they should find the true source. OF COURSE they may already know the true source for the majority of the exposure, and simply tossed in the "lead pellet/bullet flake" portion as part of another agenda, again imho.
LD
Elemental lead is not toxic. Some lead compounds - like in older paints - are - because of the compounds.Not sure of your meaning. I personally saw the huge discolored area in that oak log section. Would the lead not have leeched into the pork if it had been shot repeatedly over a couple of years? And would it not be toxic? I have no idea.
Funny story though, I had a bag of .680 round balls sitting on my desk at home (fairly old) and a guy from Window World stopped by with a quote. He saw them sitting there and noticed that there was some lead oxide on them. He was about terrified out of his mind. Apparently, some videos he had been shown depict all lead, and especially lead oxide as fatal to even view from three feet away. He did all he could to get me to throw them out (without touching them) right then and there.
also both STONE & IRON ARROW HEADS, JIM BRIGER also I beleave. GOD, these were relay MEN, NO SISSIES IN THEM!!!There were several mountain men who carried lead in their bodies until they died....... from old age. Jim Bridger comes to mind.
Nope.
Lead poisoning comes from lead oxide, not plain lead, in most cases of which I've read. It's a white powder that was used a lot as an oil based paint pigment, and it is reported to have a slight sweet taste. It was the lead oxide in the paint chips in cheap, welfare dwellings that was poisoning the kids in the 1970's. Doctors regularly leave lead bullets in gunshot victims so long as the slug itself isn't interfering with the actions of the body.
Waterfowl would get lead poisoning from ingesting old shot that had oxidized on the bottom of a lake or pond. They would dive down to get some "pebbles" for their digestive tract, and lead pellets apparently feel like pebbles. These would stay in the duck for a while and transfer the oxide that had formed, and poison the animals.
KΔLIFOЯИIÁ has a ban in many areas if not the whole state on lead projectiles, supposedly because condors are ingesting lead bullets or pellets from wounded game that gets away and later dies. It might be a problem for ingesting shot though highly unlikely unless the hunters were using "reclaimed shot", but not likely at all for a rifle bullet (imho), and if the birds are showing lead contamination, I'd submit that the lead projectile vector is darn poor science, and if they are serious about preserving the species, they should find the true source. OF COURSE they may already know the true source for the majority of the exposure, and simply tossed in the "lead pellet/bullet flake" portion as part of another agenda, again imho.
LD
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