Patch lube

[hawkeye2]

John T's Post#1544382 should be made a stickie as it sums up about all of the lube discussions :yakyak: I have ever seen. It doesn't seem to matter if we talk minies, conicals or patched round ball there is always someone who feels the lube they developed or found is the only one and sometimes they can be quite defensive (offensive?) regarding their choice and there are also any number of individuals that have found a lube that works quite well and are willing to share with everyone. There is more than one lube out there including commercial ones that work very well and probably well enough that it doesn't matter to the average shooter. In my opinion what is important is to find a lube, homemade or bought, that seems to work for you and that you are comfortable with and then work to develop a consistent procedure for loading and shooting and practice, practice and then practice some more.

There has been some excellent information posted in this thread and every other lube thread for that matter. I could recount almost an endless number of tales of my lube experiences over the years but I believe I'll save them for the next lube thread, probably in a couple of weeks, and bow out of this one. :grin: :v

 

[Dr5x]

Billinpatti,
Experimenting with different patch lubes can be very educational. In my experience it always came down to ""Less Slick, Tighter Groups"
Whatever goo you are using, if it gives you tight groups, stick with it.

Have finally digitized all my material. Cleaned up by an expert, no longer a wait for the mail man. Thank you for your help.

Dutch

 

[swathdiver]

Billinpatti,
Experimenting with different patch lubes can be very educational. In my experience it always came down to ""Less Slick, Tighter Groups"
Whatever goo you are using, if it gives you tight groups, stick with it.

Have finally digitized all my material. Cleaned up by an expert, no longer a wait for the mail man. Thank you for your help.

Dutch

Well Dutch, after putting your system to use, I have no problems with figuring out the best patch lube anymore! :hatsoff:

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Amen to that Dutch. And I also came away with greasy fingers!

Twisted_1in66 :thumbsup:
Dan

 

[robinsroost]

Has anyone tried bacon fryings? I don't know how well it would work, but it would drive everyone else at the range crazy trying to figure out who had the bacon sandwiches, LOL.........robin :wink:

 

[pwbsmokey]

There is a lot of salt in bacon grease, I personally would not want to use it, but I was wondering, since petroleum based products should not be used, why is Ballistol so popular?

 

[user 27715]

There's salt in bacon grease but also saltpeter in black powder. What's the difference really? Corrosion is corrosion, if you clean your gun promptly and properly it really shouldn't matter. Considering the age and health condition of most of the guys I shoot with, using bacon grease as a patch lube would be downright cruel. :wink:

 

[Boomerang]

since petroleum based products should not be used, why is Ballistol so popular?

Probably because it is water soluble.

 

[BigBoreBLR]

Always wondered if the oil soaps machinists use as lubricant and coolant during milling would work ok.

 

[pwbsmokey]

I agree with cleaning after shooting because corrosive salts are active in powder fouling. I was thinking more in terms of having a rifle loaded for a long period of time. The powder doesn't rust the barrel, fouling does, and the salty lube might. If you want to try bacon grease go ahead it might work just fine. But I would try running a greased patch down a clean oil free barrel, then checking it in a day with a clean patch to see if any surface rust developed. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I would want to make sure I didn't have a patched ball sitting in the same spot in the barrel causing a rust ring, if I left the gun loaded for several days during hunting season.

 

[Boomerang]

Always wondered if the oil soaps machinists use as lubricant and coolant during milling would work ok.

Yes, I wonder the same thing. We use a water soluble synthetic coolant in our machines at work and I'm tempted to give that a try.

 

[Rat Trapper]

Catch a coon or possum and scrape the hide and use the grease for patch lube and sell the hide for beer money.

 

[Dr5x]

Bacon fat might work as a patch lube BUT doesn't bacon have a certain amount of salt.

Any sailor can tell you what salt does to steel.

Just a thought.

Dutch

 

[Rifleman1776]

Always wondered if the oil soaps machinists use as lubricant and coolant during milling would work ok.

Yes, I wonder the same thing. We use a water soluble synthetic coolant in our machines at work and I'm tempted to give that a try.

As I understand it, the 'water soluable oil' of days past is no longer available. I have no idea what is used currently.

 

[robinsroost]

Y'all take your selves way too seriously. I made the post about bacon fryings, trying to be funny. Apparently it didn't work......robin :idunno:

 

[azmntman]

Thats why so many use dawn dish soap to clean, cuts that bacon grease like nobodies business :blah:

 

[coloradoclyde]

Y'all take your selves way too seriously. I made the post about bacon fryings, trying to be funny. Apparently it didn't work......robin :idunno:

Humor? as in a joke? and people didn't get it?.....

Now that's funny.... :rotf:

 

[BillinOregon]

Necchi, we are keeping the old circle unbroken my friend. Read Ned Roberts on caplock rifles, or on schuetzen rifles; lube recipes were ardently campaigned 150 years ago. May there never be a perfect lube!

:haha:

 

[Jim C]

Been using your Ballistol/water dry lube concoction for almost a year now. After dialing in all three of my rifles the 1 to 6 B/W ratio is the favorite one for all three. 5 shots in one ragged hole from the bench at 50 yards is the norm for two of them.........Thanks Dutch

 

[tenngun]

On thing I've noted with lard and tallow along with mink oil is that all brown a little on exposure to air. Greasing a clean barrel with animal fat then running a patch down the barrel a few days or weeks later will return a patch that looks like your bore is all rusty :shocked2: I like animal fat on a patch, and know it works in a bore but causes a pucker if I see it on a swab. I use barrisol for cosmetic reasons.