patch material from Jo anns fabric

[mickey44]

anyone have a model # , store number ect for material for .001 ball patchs from jo ann's fabic stores so I can just go in there and buy a yard with out measuring everything in site :idunno:

 

[roundball]

anyone have a model # , store number ect for material for .001 ball patchs from jo ann's fabic stores so I can just go in there and buy a yard with out measuring everything in site :idunno:

I don't...normally use much thicker patches.

PS: Did you mean to type .001" or .010" ?

 

[jamesthomas]

It doesn't work that way because every bolt of material will vary a little bit. Plus I betcha most of us don't look at the SKU. or Fabric number and could care less. There are linen and denim fabrics that might measure .010. The only way to be sure is to go in the store with you micrometer and start measuring material. Some other folks will be able to help you cause I don't use that thin of a patch.

 

[necchi]

It's not that simple.
Each run of fabric at the manufacturer is made within a random tolerance +/- whatever the buyer wants.
Let's just say your looking at denim or ticking,, a bolt of fabric has a lot number, the same fabric two months from now from the same store could be a different lot number and different thickness.

It's best to swallow the man pride/fear of the "Fabric Shop" go in there with a mic or caliper and start working the fabric,, ask for a quarter yard of what you find acceptable,, try it and if it works go back and buy several yards,,
because next time it won't be the same.

Trust me, my mother was a seamstress and Fabric shop manager, I got broke in to all this fabric stuff at a very young age.

 

[mickey44]

yea .o1 added a extra zero
gues I need to dig out the micrometer, I got no problem going into a fabric store or after being married over 30 years even a bra store
just did not what the funny looks you get when you do something different in a store

 

[necchi]

just did not what the funny looks you get when you do something different in a store

Well, your not supposed to play with the bra's.

I had an experience in a local fabric shop (a Hancock's) I had spent 20-30 minutes working over several bolts of various cotton fabrics and had selected a bolt of denim. When I placed it on the cutting table and asked for 2yrds the Lady looked at me and said;
"So what are you shooting?"
:haha:
Come to find out she had a custom flintlock in 45 and that we both attended some of the same `vous,,
we just didn't recognize each other in street cloths.

 

[mooman76]

You should be able to measure and feel too get close to what you want meaning feel what you measure so when you feel others you should know what is close so you don't have to measure everything.

 

[necchi]

Nope.
Sorry friend, but "feeling" the thickness of fabric for patch material` will get you a lot of fun shooting,, but you ain't walkin up the the prize table on a regular basis.

 

[mooman76]

That's why I said "measure and feel". If he gets a feel for what is close he can cut down on measuring every sing thing.

 

[jamesthomas]

I would rather spend a few extra moments to make sure.

 

[mooman76]

You guys aren't getting me. I'm not saying don't measure. You can tell by feeling what is close. If it is obvious this item is too thick or too thin, why bother measuring? But if it feels close, then measure it to see if it's what we want.

 

[necchi]

Yes, canvas is different than muslin is different than flannel is different than bating is different than linen print,,
But nobody is going to "feel" the difference between .012 and .015 "thickness".

What a person should feel is the difference in the weave or density of fabric. Canvas does not make a good patch,, neither does linen

 

[Grumpa]

Now that is a delightful story!

 

[Grumpa]

You should be able to measure and feel too get close to what you want meaning feel what you measure so when you feel others you should know what is close so you don't have to measure everything.

Now I'm lost! Are you talking about bolts of cloth, or bras?! :haha:

 

[Herb]

Canvas makes a very good patch, the red stuff from Wal Mart. Linen makes the best patch of all in my experience of many thousands of rounds shot. Of Course, it has to be the right thickness. The stuff JoAnn has now is too thin or loose of weave.

 

[necchi]

Of Course, it has to be the right thickness.

Yes, and there's about 8 kinds of canvas too.
This topic isn't about what makes good patch,,
It's about finding thickness of fabric at stores.

Of course everyone knows the "Blue" ticking at walmart is better than the "Red" ticking at Joannes, but if you want the best stuff it's,,,,, really juniors old PJ's for cleaning, old T-shirts for swabbing and the butt section of 6yr old Wrangler jeans for ball patch, when that's gone use the lower leg section but avoid the knees.

 

[Don Steele]

I'm gonna chime in with an experience I have had regarding patch material.
Some time back...I found some "Blue Ticking" material that worked real well for me. As a result, I bought enough to last a good long while.
Fast forward, when I needed to get more of my "Blue Ticking" material..I went back to the same store, same rack, etc...HOWEVER...I found the bolt of "Blue Ticking" they had on the shelf at that time was measurably thinner (that's right...I took a micrometer :hmm: ) than what I had been shooting. I was able to find a bolt of "Tan Ticking" that has worked quite well as replacement for the Blue.
The "take-away" here is that even when it looks the same...it might not meet your needs. :thumbsup:

 

[Pete G]

Measuring new cloth can be misleading. Always wash your patching material before you try to use it. The stuff in the store has sizing (sort of like starch) that needs to be washed out prior to use. Most cotton based cloth will also shrink in overall size but will usually gain a small amount of thickness in the process with the first washing. Probably not a significant amount and it will compress better when loaded anyway. My favorite is to buy what is known as twill, sold for pocket lining. It is designed to be tough and long wearing and usually ends up being about .018" after washing, even though it measured about .015" when new.

While you are there be sure to pick up a yard or so of white flannel for cleaning patches. A $5 investment will give you more cleaning patches than 10 or 12 of those little bags and you can cut them into whatever size you need.

 

[roundball]

As I gradually replaced T/C and GM square bottom grooved barreled MLs with builds using round bottom groove Rice barrels, the bores were much roomier and the .018" Oxyoke/TC pillow ticking was no longer thick enough.
A local JoAnn Fabrics store here had an entire new 10 yard bolt of true blue striped mattress ticking that mic'd .025"-.026". Bought a yard, washed & dried it, mic'ed .028", cut & lubed patches, tested fantastic at the range, went right back and bought the the whole remaining 9 yards on the bolt.
Set for as long as I'll have these Flintlocks.

 

[Billnpatti]

As they say in Australia, "Good on ya, mate." Ya done good. :thumbsup: