Patterned the new 20ga kibler fowler

[Texcl2]

Not very scientific but this pattern was at 30 yards with about 1 1/8 oz of #3 bismuth, hornet nest over the powder a thin felt wad greased with olive oil, shot and regular over shot wad. I charged it with a pretty stout load of powder by accident and was pleasantly surprised with how little it kicked and how well it patterned. I shot roundballs with 60 grains of goex 2f and she shot exactly where I was aiming. Unfortunately with the short days and sub-zero weather I didn’t get to shoot as much as I would have liked. I have next week off and will probably chase Hungarian partridge and sharptail grouse as there are a bunch this year. Maybe a pheasant or ruffy if I’m lucky. I have to mention, this gun has the fastest ignition of any large lock I’ve ever owned by a large margin and I’ve owned a bunch. I guess I won’t need to get her jug choked, this pattern is good enough and I haven’t even done any real load development. In my experience un-buffered bismuth usually shoots worse patterns than lead or steel so this is a good start.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Very happy for you it's just why all the various wadding. Why make it complicated?

 

[Texcl2]

Hornet wadding protects the powder from the lube in the felt wad and creates a better seal, the felt wad holds the lube. Plain hornet wadding will work fine but your barrel will foul quicker. The thick fiber wads will often blow patterns so I don’t use them often.

 

[Zutt-man]

Hornet wadding protects the powder from the lube in the felt wad and creates a better seal, the felt wad holds the lube. Plain hornet wadding will work fine but your barrel will foul quicker. The thick fiber wads will often blow patterns so I don’t use them often.

I think what Brit is saying is “don’t over think it”. Find one type of sealer/wad and use just one.

I’ve done this with lubed wads (over powder and over shot) with great success

 

[Britsmoothy]

Hornet wadding protects the powder from the lube in the felt wad and creates a better seal, the felt wad holds the lube. Plain hornet wadding will work fine but your barrel will foul quicker. The thick fiber wads will often blow patterns so I don’t use them often.

I just use thin OS cards X3 over the powder and one on the shot.
Sometimes I scoop some homemade lube from a tin with one of the cards.
Super easy.

 

[Texcl2]

I have a theory that hornet wadding should pattern pretty well since it disintegrates as soon as it leaves the barrel plus it’s free for me. I will test it as an over shot wad too and see what happens though the cardboard ones are super convenient. The only downside is no lube. I don’t find it a whole lot more complicated to add the felt wad, especially target shooting since I usually have all my stuff sitting on a table. I think the over shot card as a wad is good too, it’s just not free lol. Although I’ll probably get a punch eventually. When I hunt I keep my components in tubes and load them from there so it’s all together and easy to quickly load. Sometimes I’ll load the more traditional way too. I hear what y’all are saying though. I will definitely take your advice and try it out.