PC barrel length

[BP]

Would a 38" swamp barrel be PC on an early virginia style rifle?

I'm trying to decide what to build next while working on a hawken. Was thinking a transitional or early lancaster just because of the time period and shorter barrels (seem handier for hunting). I like the looks of the virginia style rifles, but all seem to have 42" barrels.

I'm new to this and enjoy it, but may be driving myself nuts considering every little detail......

 

[DrTimboone]

Its a common disease!! :youcrazy: enjoy it!! :surrender: :v

There are several early guns with 38" barrel such as the Marshall rifle

go for it :grin:

 

[tg]

I would think that barrel length would be fine from a historical standpoint, but many,myself included hunt with 44" plus barrels in heavy cover with no problems, just food for thought.

 

[Stophel]

There's nothing "wrong" with a 38" barrel, but a longer one would be much more "normal". :winking:

 

[George Holton]

PC PC PC :bull:

 

[Mike Brooks]

PC PC PC :bull:

Might as well go with an inline then. :winking:

 

[Stophel]

For an early VA rifle, I'd go with a Remington 700 in something like 7mm STW, with a heavy stainless steel fluted barrel with muzzlebrake. The stock would be Claro Walnut with a Monte carlo cheekpiece and ebony diamonds inlaid in the fore end. Iron mounts and Sliding wood patchbox, of course, with a silver mercury dime as a thumbpiece.

What kind of shot bag would go with this gun and my 1770 VA persona?

 

[BLAHMAN]

For an early VA rifle, I'd go with a Remington 700 in something like 7mm STW, with a heavy stainless steel fluted barrel with muzzlebrake. The stock would be Claro Walnut with a Monte carlo cheekpiece and ebony diamonds inlaid in the fore end. Iron mounts and Sliding wood patchbox, of course.

What kind of shot bag would go with this gun and my 1770 VA persona?

You forgot the removable 30 round magazine :winking:

 

[Tommy Bruce]

BP, In RCA vol II pg 522, Mr. Shumway lists rifle no. 120 to be of Southern Origin. He describes the brass and lock as being from English origin which was common on Virginia guns. He dates the rifle between 1765-1785 and it has a 36 7/16" barrel in .55 cal. He makes no mention of it being shortened. Hope this helps.

 

[BP]

It certainly does help. Thanks!

I need to look into getting my hands on the Shumway books.

 

[tg]

"PC PC PC"

Your constant negative imput whenever someone brings up the subject of historical accuracy or PC ...is getting ....REALLY OLD BOB!

 

[Stophel]

Although "gun #120" may be exactly what one might want to find in a Virginia gun, it is very possible, even very likely, that this particular gun was made in New York, as this gun, and another with very similar architecture were "found" in New York. (illustrated by Shumway in the July 1993 issue of Muzzle Blasts, along with the story of the discovery of the gun. This was after RCA was published)

Even so, there still is nothing wrong with a relatively short rifle barrel.

Some of the best examples of "probable" pre-revolutionary rifles from VA are, of course, the "Faber" gun (RCA#117), what's left of "gun #118", RCA #124, and the "A.H." gun #131, along with a "possible" Shenandoa valley gun that was illustrated in the October 1982 Muzzleblasts (among other places). This gun looks about 1770 to me, but some swear it has to be ten or fifteen years earlier....

 

[Tommy Bruce]

Thanks for the info Chris, I wasn't aware of the articles you mentioned. Sorry if I mislead on that one.

 

[dlemaster]

BP
There is a truly great rifle pictured in George Shumway's "Rifles of Colonial America" vol.1
It is rifle #48 and is signed by Jacob Dickert that has a 39" barrel and it dates to possibly the late 1760's or the early 1770's, and then as mention there in the Edward Marshall Rifle with a 37 ?/16 (almost 38") barrel.
So have at it.

Regards, Dave

 

[dlemaster]

Bob
Why do you insist on replying to a post that you obviously have no interest in, and have nothing positive to add to?
BP asked if such a barrel length was PC for a rifle he is considering making.
Nobody cares how you feel about whether things are PC or HC or not. So butt out.

Dave

 

[A Scott]

I guess jager rifles are not pc since they have such a short barrel. Nice to know ther are so many pc experts out there.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Jaeger rifles are period correct in several time periods. This, however, has no connection to the original post. Hope you and Bob are enjoying your in-lines as much as the rest of us enjoy our traditional firearms.

 

[Tommy Bruce]

A Jaeger is perfectly correct but I thought we were talking about Virginia rifles.

 

Hey,

You would happen to be the A Scott who makes barrels in OK would you?

In the original post, he specified VA rifles, so I think jeagers are outide of the relm of this discussion. But no one would argue about pc stubby jaegers or even blunderbusses for that matter.

Sean

 

[tg]

". But no one would argue about pc stubby jaegers "

Evidently there was one who thought it the thing to do?