The brass one. The Kibler butt plate is close to the iron mounted rifle.Any picture of it?
Kibler says the style is from the 1760s-1770s.I haven't seen a patch box like that one on a longrifle made before 1820 so if I wanted my rifle to look like one of the original flintlocks, I wouldn't use it.
Zonie,
I misread your post. Now I get it. That style is post 1820.