Pedersoli 12g Side by Side Year? Value?

[jessewaldorf]

Hi,

I recently inherited some black powder arms. I know the the .45cals I have are newer ones my grandfather took as trade for some legal work. But he always said this pedersoli was an oldy.

Anyone able to help me with an evaluation? Serial number 16411.

more photos here....
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eA2LUYyfWA6NGB488

 

[Britsmoothy]

Look for the date code. Two letters in a rectangle. Then Google the date codes.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

It is my understanding that blued barreled Pedersoli shotguns are the current ones. I have two with browned barrels from the late 1990's & the early 2000's, so I would guess your's is not more than 10-15 years old, if the blue vs brown barrel chronology is correct. Like Britsmoothy said, the date code will tell you exactly what year. Date code letters are on the right barrel on mine. If your pic was of the other side they would be visible. Let us know!!

 

[Britsmoothy]

It is my understanding that blued barreled Pedersoli shotguns are the current ones. I have two with browned barrels from the late 1990's & the early 2000's, so I would guess your's is not more than 10-15 years old, if the blue vs brown barrel chronology is correct. Like Britsmoothy said, the date code will tell you exactly what year. Date code letters are on the right barrel on mine. If your pic was of the other side they would be visible. Let us know!!

Not quite true.
I own a 1972 Pedersoli double with blued barrels. It is however much lighter than later models.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

Not quite true.
I own a 1972 Pedersoli double with blued barrels. It is however much lighter than later models.

So they switched from blued to browned, then back to blued? Or, did they make both browned & blued at the same time for awhile? I don't believe browned barrels are available on the current production, at least the ones imported to the USA. Will be interesting to see what jessewaldorf's dates to!!

 

[Phil Coffins]

Italian Manufacture/Proof Date Codes ,
easily found, in one place, not subject tothe capriciousness of the interwebs....

Symbol Year of Proof
X 1954
XI 1955
XII 1956
XIII 1957
XIV 1958
XV 1959
XVI 1960
XVII 1961
XVIII 1962
XIX 1963
XX 1964
XXI 1965
XXII 1966
XXIII 1967
XXIV 1968
XXV 1969
XXVI 1970
XX7 1971
XX8 1972
XX9 1973
XXX 1974
AA 1975
AB 1976
AC 1977
AD 1978
AE 1979
AF 1980
AH 1981
AI 1982
AL 1983
AM 1984
AN 1985
AP 1986
AS 1987
AT 1988
AU 1989
AZ 1990
BA 1991
BB 1992
BC 1993
BD 1994
BF 1995
BH 1996
BI 1997
BL 1998
BM 1999
BN 2000
BP 2001
BS 2002
BT 2003
BU 2004
BZ 2005
CA 2006
CB 2007
CC 2008
CD 2009
CE 2010
CF 2011
CH 2012
CI 2013
CL 2014

 

[Phil Coffins]

There were at one time both blued and browned 12 gauge double guns the browned ones as I remember are lighter and have less choke in the barrels. Later a even heavier one was offered with screw in chokes In the blued barrel.

 

[SDSmlf]

I have a Pedersoli SxS 12 gauge that was proofed in 1978 with serial number under 600 and it’s blued. Definitely one of lighter ones, weighing in at 5.8 pounds.

 

[Britsmoothy]

I have a Pedersoli SxS 12 gauge that was proofed in 1978 with serial number under 600 and it’s blued. Definitely one of lighter ones, weighing in at 5.8 pounds.

Without looking I think I was wrong when I said mine was made in 1972....it's possibly 1976.

Wonder when we get the results!

 

[jessewaldorf]

any idea where to look for the proof marks? i can't see any obvious marks... dont want to pull it apart

 

[no1_49er]

There's nothing easier to take it apart.
Remove the ram-rod, pull the hammers back to half-cock, press the forearm nail out to the RHS (it's captive, so don't worry about losing it) and the barrels are free to lift out of the hooked breech. You have nothing to fear, or lose.

 

[Britsmoothy]

any idea where to look for the proof marks? i can't see any obvious marks... dont want to pull it apart

It's probably best you sell it buddy.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

any idea where to look for the proof marks? i can't see any obvious marks... dont want to pull it apart

Pulling it apart will be a routine procedure for cleaning & maintenance. If you are afraid to do that you probably don't have the expertise to load & fire it SAFELY. Shooting muzzle loaders takes knowledge, tooling, & competence. Unless you develop those attributes & educate yourself, it's probably best not to shoot it or just follow Britsmoothy's advice.

 

[SDSmlf]

any idea where to look for the proof marks? i can't see any obvious marks... dont want to pull it apart

‘To pull it apart’ is a normal and required part of cleaning/maintenance. Agree with @Britsmoothy suggestion.

It's probably best you sell it buddy.

Here is a photograph of the bottom side of the barrels of the gun I own.

 

[TBone]

I have a 10 ga from late 1990's. Blued.

T

 

[Dave Marsh]

So based on the AD I see it was made in 1978 or am I reading it wrong.

Dave

 

[SDSmlf]

So based on the AD I see it was made in 1978 or am I reading it wrong.

Dave

Yes sir, you are reading it correctly. The AD in the box on the barrel in post #14 indicates the gun was proofed in 1978.

 

[rrebuck]

I just looked at my 10 gauge after reading this and that info is visible right on the side of my left barrel w/o disassembling. Mine's CC, so 2008, serial # K35800.

 

[rafterob]

Even if its an older one, the value is pretty steady because these are contemporary replicas. Your example is probably worth in the 500-600 range.

 

[bobman]

I have a 12 ga from 1971 it’s blued and very lightweight