Percussion Revolvers

[TFoley]

Replacement parts can be had, but I'm uncertain as to what degree of parts. I recently bent my ROA base pin and looked around. A few people told me of 2 places that makes them. One charges $50 for a blued one, and the other was much more reasonable and offered it in stainless to match mine.

I can't imagine how you missed my thread on trying to get hold of a base pin for a ROA last week and the week before on this forum.

I contacted Christine at Ruger to be told that

1. there were NO base pins.

2. there were no rear frame screws.

3. there were positively NO parts that were not common to the Super Blackhawk.

Basically, if you have a ROA - either blue or stainless, you are on your own.

So if YOU actually DO know where ANY stainless steel basepins that DON'T cost $50 each might be obtained, I'd be very grateful and so would another five ROA owners over here in UK.

Thank you.

tac

 

[TFoley]

The Ruger Old Army is a good gun, but before you run out and buy one you should know that they're no longer made, and replacement parts are apparently no longer available as I understand it.

Any idea on the thread pattern of the nipples? That would be my primary concern for repalcement parts.

The ROA nipples are unique to the gun due to their rather innovative shape. I'm told that there ARE pattern replacements to be had, but I have no idea where they might be gotten from.

tac

 

[garandman]

When I'm looking for parts, I always check with -

Numrich

e-Gun Parts

Silver Hill Holding Company (336) 746-5865

L.S. Gun Shop (864)862-2568

There's bunches of old / used gun parts dealers on the net. Its a needle in a haystack search, but there's no shortage of places to call.

 

[rodwha]

tac: Link

 

[rodwha]

Ooops! Somehow missed your report that Brownell's is out of parts. I looked the part # up when it was shown to me and could not find it, but the guy who had posted it claimed he could order it for me if I had problems...

That would leave the one place I did indeed talk to who only has blued ones for $50 something, and will be making them in stainless in a few months.

From what I've been reading is that once bent back they seem to hold well. Haven't heard of anyone having it snap. No doubt you'll need to be very careful though as it's strength has been compromised. Don't do it again!

 

[rodwha]

If there are several of you guys in need over there maybe they'd give you a little bit of a deal on 5-6 plus shipping them all at once may save a bit on shipping that far too.

 

[gl1200a]

After market replacement nipples are available, by a couple mfg's.
The ones I like the best are made by Ron Blomquist, Blomquist Percussion. This goes for the Italian revolvers also.

I've bent a base pin about as bad as a person can bend one. Straightened it out, and all is well. That was a few thousand rounds ago.

Only one way to bend one. Not tighten the keeper.
Stupid=Expensive.
Loading "normal" target loads, even with the keeper not tightened, I doubt it can be bent. Only trying to compress a heavy load with a loose keeper can the bending occur. IMO.

 

[TFoley]

After market replacement nipples are available, by a couple mfg's.
The ones I like the best are made by Ron Blomquist, Blomquist Percussion. This goes for the Italian revolvers also.

I've bent a base pin about as bad as a person can bend one. Straightened it out, and all is well. That was a few thousand rounds ago.

Only one way to bend one. Not tighten the keeper.
Stupid=Expensive.
Loading "normal" target loads, even with the keeper not tightened, I doubt it can be bent. Only trying to compress a heavy load with a loose keeper can the bending occur. IMO.

Sadly, as I explone on my original post, the securing screw was not tightened correctly and on loading, the base pin pushed out, being easier to push out than to push the ball into the chamber - THAT is when it bent.

I've managed to straighten it out using a pair of alloy blocks with grooves milled into it and the headstock of a Sheerline lathe, but if it happens again, I'm toast. The guy who actually did it was all apologies, but i guess it's really my own fault for bleeving him when he said he was an experienced BP shooter....

tac

 

[nkbj]

Well, I bought "used".
Pietta .44 1858, extra cylinder and holster for $150. To all appearances I'm the first to use it. Great revolver.

Pietta .36 1858 for $150 that needed a new set of nipples, otherwise great.

Pietta .36 1851 for $150 NIB that is total trash. The cylinder won't even come off the pin!

Lesson learned.

 

[gordy]

Being I can,t claim "expert" status with C&B pistols and revolvrs . The comments I make are based on owning and shooting and maintaining various handguns I,ve owned . Excluding the several centerfire and rimfire handguns.As was said by others the Ruger Old Army never had an equal in a production C&B handgun. L,ve always been impressed with the Colt and Remington C&B clones produced by the Co.s in Italy.For the cost. I,ve always been satisfied with them. Now , I don,t shoot in matches , but I do shoot mine for sport and pleasure. For what I do they serve me well.
:thumbsup: :hatsoff:

 

[garandman]

Well, I bought "used".
Pietta .44 1858, extra cylinder and holster for $150. To all appearances I'm the first to use it. Great revolver.

Pietta .36 1858 for $150 that needed a new set of nipples, otherwise great.

Pietta .36 1851 for $150 NIB that is total trash. The cylinder won't even come off the pin!

Lesson learned.

I don't follow. What lesson did you learn?

 

[necchi]

That there ARE different grades of production models

 

[Glenfilthie]

Maybe they cleaned up their act. I bought a Uberti 1860 and my only gripe with it is that it shoots high. I will fix that - eventually. I bought some new fangled bronze alloy nipples from TOTW and have put nearly 500 rounds down the pipe and it seems okay.

But what do I know, I am merely a gun club duffer so my thoughts are worth exactly what you paid for them. :idunno:

 

[bob308]

some of what he says is true for the early guns made 50's-70's. alot of the problem came from the conversion from inch to metric and a thing called stacking error.
i belive since the mid 70's things have improved. in the 80's better yet.
if any one had ever read about the old colts they had their problems. but they were all there was to be had.

 

[dc7x64]

Just got my '58 Remington last week from Cabelas. It is a Pietta. I was concerned there may be "issues" with this gun. First thing I checked was timing..perfect. No cylinder drag at all. Really impressed with the finish and fit of everything. All cylinders mic out .444-.445. I guess they really did step up to the plate. Last Pietta I bought was in the mid '90's. 1860 Colt Army...looked like they blued over unpolished steel..very unattractive but shot great. Have not fired the "Remy" yet so the verdict is still out on this one :grin:

 

[rodwha]

I'm curious as to what your barrel measures.

 

[fort fireman]

I bought an 1851 brass frame about 5 years ago. i got it a bass pro shops on an impulse buy. It had all the "fixins" with it. i had problems with that one. The pin that hold the gun together slid out easy, and the cylinder wouldn't come off once the gun came apart. i took it back to bass pro and they replaced the gun with the another along with all the "fixins" and they let me keep all the other stuff from the other kit. The gun is a pietta in a traditions box and has worked flawlessly since. After all that, I guess it is possible to get a bad one. But it was made right and now I'm looking at a 1858 remington only in a steel frame so down the road I can get a conversion cylinder. i just need to decide if I want the 5.5 inch or the 7 inch barrel.

 

[dc7x64]

The decision was easy for me. I already have two Rugers with 45/8 inch barrels. Since I bought the 1858 with intentions of buying the conversion cylinder, I wanted to wring out the maximum amount of accuracy I could. I have not held the 5.5 but I can bet it is a little more balanced than the longer version.

 

[tripe1917]

I have a 1858 5.5 inch Remington by Pietta and (2) 7.5 inch Uberti's. The Pietta is a good pistol, but Uberti's Remy's seem to have a little better feel in their actions. The finishes are very close in quality but I don't like Pietta Made in Italy stamped on the sides of the barrel. Uberti stamps on the bottom of the barrel out of view.

 

[Fox.45]

:surrender: Been readin all the comments and wont argue with anyone.
But I must tell my story ,lol.
I own and shoot 1 ASM 1858,1 ASM 1851 brasser
2 1858 PIA, steel frame. 1 ,1858 PIA brasser, and 1 ROA.
I shoot every one and have NO issues with any of them.And I love em all.. FOX.45... :stir: