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Joe Yanta

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Anyone know what was used for glues? Or recipes?. If I can remember from my bowyers books hide glue was from animal hides, hoof and parts. I heard of another that was pine resin and fine pumice like stone? What have you heard or used?

Joe
 
The way I understand it Joe is most anything of natural protien can be made into a glue of sorts, fish skin n bladders, raw hide, tendons cut up n boiled down, certin tree resins. Some are better then others in they hold stronger or are more water resistent after drying. Depends on what yer looking for I guess. just some thoughts YMHS Birdman
 
I have heard (never verified it) that Knox gelatin is identical to hoof glue. Primitive archery web-sites will have lots more info.
 
Joe - for what use are you planning on using the glue?

1) If you're looking for glue for mounting knife blades the traditional method (goes back to pre-historic times) is what is commonly known as cutler's resin - a mix of rosin/pitch, beeswax, and a filler which can be anything from sawdust to dried dung.......a coomon ratio is 5 parts rosin (I use either home brewed or the Brewer's pitch from James Townsend), 1 part beeswax, and one part filler - melt together and apply. Be careful - this stuff will stick to you and burn!

2) For wood protein based hide glue was/is the premier glue.

3) For gluing leather/cloth such as when glueing a lining into a bag vegetable based starch glues were the glue of choice - for example: flour (rye was commonly used) mixed with water

Hope this helps...............
 
Real hide glue is still available at most hardware stores or decent lumber yards. Most fine funiture makers and cabinet makers still use hide glue.
 
When I braintan deerskins I usually wind up with some stiff spots around the edges and holes, and little strips that are just too much trouble to try to soften. I cut them off before making anything out of the buckskin, and wound up with a pretty good amount of this sorta-rawhide-sorta-buckskin stuff.

Then, when I tried my hand at making my first knife from an old file and deer horn, I threw these pieces into a pot with some water and just kept boiling it down until it was a sticky, nasty mess. I stuffed the hole I drilled in the end of the horn with it, sank the half-tang in, and let it set for a while. It worked better than I would've thought. It lasted for years, in fact, and only loosened up when I got it thoroughly soaked in saltwater during a sailing trip. (Took it underwater with me to cut some line. Stupid.) Never a problem with freshwater on canoe / kayak trips. Go figure.

So, I dunno if that's anywhere near PC, but it's sure hide glue, and it certainly worked for me. Seems like the kind of thing a hunter or trapper might do, too.
 
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