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dyemaker

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Years ago persimmon trees were planted on my property. There are about a dozen planted ones and a couple of wild ones. While walking the dog yeasterday I noticed one tree was loaded and plan on saving some pulp for Thanksgiving. Now is the time to harvest these I think. There are no leaves on the trees so you can see them. There were still none on the ground.
 
Wait until a heavy frost, or you will get the sensation of a mouthful of cotton with every bite.

It takes a good frost to bring the persimmons to maturity, for lack of a better word, so I suggest waiting until a hard freeze before harvesting those persimmons.

However, you can test the persimmons for ripeness and sweetness by harvesting one and eating it with gusto. :v :wink:

Just kidding about eating an unripe persimmon. They are really bad before a hard frost.

God bless
 
Don't think it has frosted yet but they were not bitter except around the seeds. I'll hold off until frost anyway. You are right they are NASTY unripe. It's hard to describe just how nasty.
 
Dyemaker , another thing you can do is save the seeds. After your done enjoying the persimmons clean the seeds and save them. Place in a plastic container and put them in your freezer for a couple months, I believe they needs chilled for something like 200 hours to ripen n germanate come spring. then put a bunch in your pocket come spring n take a walk in the woods, scuff the dirt some n drop a few seeds on the ground cover them up with a little dirt n in about ten years you'll have trees with fruit ripening n drawing deer etc in to feed. May seem like a lot of work because of the time involved but maybe someone like us will get to enjoy a good hunt from the time n effort we put out today. You can google up propagating Persimmon trees for more detailed info iffen ya want. I do it every couple years n see some trees that have survived that are now 7 or 8 feet tall.
 
Oh I think I have enough persimmon trees. These were planted more than 10 years ago. I helped my brother plant a walnut grove many years ago but they got mowed down by the landlord and he planted some persimmon trees. Those walnut trees would have been doing well by now.
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let the persimmons hit the ground for the coons and possums to feed on. they will 'scatter' the seeds in thier scat.
after they've fattened up on the fruit shoot them and clean them for roasting.
 
They make good beer.

The poor relation of champagne--with the advantage that nobody is ever the worse for drinking it.

To make it, take full-ripe persimmons, the juicier the better, free them of stalks and calyxes, then mash thoroughly, and add enough wheat bran or middlings to make a stiffish dough.

Form the dough into thin, flat cakes, which bake crisp in a slow oven.

When cold break them up in a clean barrel, and fill it with filtered rainwater.

A bushel of persimmons before mashing will make a barrel of beer.

Set the barrel upright, covered with a thin cloth, in a warm, dry place, free of taints.

Let stand until the beer works--the persimmon cakes will rise and stand in a foamy mass on top.

After three to four weeks, either move the barrel to a cold place, or rack off the beer into bottles or demijohns, tieing down the corks, and keeping the bottled stuff very cool.

The more meaty and flavorous the persimmons, the richer will be the beer.

Beware of putting in fruit that has not felt the touch of frost, so retains a rough tang.

A very little of it will spoil a whole brewing of beer.

If the beer is left standing in the barrel a wooden cover should be laid over the cloth, after it is done working.

Fermentation can be hastened by putting in with the persimmon cakes a slice of toast dipped in quick yeast. But if the temperature is right, the beer will ferment itself.
 
The way to truly enjoy a persimmon is to get the right one. Find one on the the tree that is still a little green ( not those reddish ones that have got all soft-yuk!) be sure to wash it thoughly and rinse your mouth with water to more fully enjoy what has to be one of natures most exotic tastes. Pop it in your mouth and enjoy one of the woodsmans greatest flavors!
I have a tree and have helped many enjoy this most exotic taste here in the Ozarks!
 
I tried eating one green once and I will never do that again. The only thing I can think of worse is garbonza beans or snapping turtle. People say oh yea, 7 flavors in snapping turtle. Seven flavors of NASTY! Ripe persimmon pudding is tasty.
Never thought of making beer. Japanese ferment and age the green fruits for a couple years to make a waterproof dye for paper etc. It is full of tannins.
 
dyemaker said:
I tried eating one green once and I will never do that again. The only thing I can think of worse is garbonza beans or snapping turtle. People say oh yea, 7 flavors in snapping turtle. Seven flavors of NASTY! Ripe persimmon pudding is tasty.
Never thought of making beer. Japanese ferment and age the green fruits for a couple years to make a waterproof dye for paper etc. It is full of tannins.

Ya got to catch them live(Snapping Turtles)and hold them for a couple of weeks and feed them on dog food to get them cleaned out. The cheap dry is the best since it is mostly corn meal. As for the persimmons after the frost hits them and the skin takes on a blueish hue they are perfectly fine to eat.
 
There are turtles in my pond and I noticed scars and missing pieces on some of the fish Ive caught.
I let someone get one but theres are more. I just don't want to mess with thm but they are hurting my trophy fish. Don't have a trap built but they would be easy to catch with nylon live. I have heard of catching them through the ice by chopping a hole where they lay by the bank too. I never got around to getting rid of them. The Blue Herons do a bit of damage too but they are protected. I just dont want to mess with the turtles. They are not that easy to clean. People say they taste great but what I ate sure didn't. I know that fish taste better when caught through the ice. Cant help but remember the first and last turtle experience tho.
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50 lb test spider wire a big hook and a chunk of chicken tied to a sapling about an inch around so that it will flex when it is hooked and you'll be rid of them in short order. You could probably even use braided steel leader material. Snapper's are'nt the most intelligent animals just very tough.
 
they do make fine soup. as said you should keep 'em in a drum for a few days in clean water to 'flush then out'.
after the meat is ready for cooking it's best to parboil in lightly salted water until tender then make soup or bread and fry (another favorite way to cook).
 
Anything I have to soak in water for a week, to make edible, I AIN"T gonna eat it.

I guess you could tie the snapper to a persimmon sapling, and leave him tied till a heavy frost.

He will try to escape shaking the tree and the ripe, ready to eat "SIMMONS" will fall, ready to be harvested.Then shoot the snapper and save the fish, to be eaten in the spring after the persimmons and all the beer are gone.

Here's a little trivia for ya! If you crack open the seed of a persimmon, what do you find inside?
Brad
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Here's a little trivia for ya! If you crack open the seed of a persimmon, what do you find inside?
Brad

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