Pewter

[Dakota Dick]

I have seen some MLs with a light gray/pewter finish rather than blued or rust...would like to use it on my build.
Anywone have some guidance or can point me in the right direction to find the product or can tell where there is an site that can tell me how to do it. :stir:
I would like to do it on both the lock and barrel.

Thanks

 

[necchi]

Naval Jelly does a greyish; http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/...54103/post/947551/hl/Naval+Jelly/fromsearch/1/

 

[Archie]

What are the benifits of a naval jelly finish? Does it protect the steel from rusting like blueing or browning?

 

[necchi]

Damn if I know, it just leaves a grey finish.
I just use the stuff to remove rust when I need to remove rust, and to remove blueing so I can rust brown something, :idunno:

 

[pargent]

That's armoury bright .

 

[M. De Land]

I think your referring to a finish that is know as "French Grey" Dick. Shiloh Sharps puts it on some of their guns on request. I've never used it but if you want I can look up how to do it in some of my old gunsmithing books. MD

 

[Dakota Dick]

Thanks to all for the replies and links...just what I needed!

MD

I have several BPCRs (Sharps, Hepburns, Highwalls) with French Gray finish. That finish is done by case hardening the metal and then removing the case hardened colors with basicly toliet bowl cleaner (mild Hydrochloric Acid)and a toothbrush. The level of polish you put on the metal before case hardening results in the level of "shine" you get in the French Gray finish.

 

[Zonie]

What are the benifits of a naval jelly finish? Does it protect the steel from rusting like blueing or browning?

No. It doesn't protect anything.

It is a mild acid that effectively eats rust.
Blued and browned barrels are almost instantly stripped of their color and if the Navel Jelly is left on the surface it will continue to eat into the surface.

That creates the gray color some like.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Ordinary household bleach. Test with different dilutions to get what you want.

 

[gsday]

Dakota

I use Brownell's Oxpho Blue. It's a cold bluing agent.

Sand to 220, apply cold blue, rinse and dry, beat it back with steel wool to the amount of wear you like.

Greg

 

[Rifleman1776]

I use Brownell's Oxpho Blue. It's a cold bluing agent.

Yep. Bluing, as in blue. Not the pewter silver/gray he requested.
BTW, I have used Oxpho-Blue for many years. I used to use it on guns I took in trade in my gun shop to spruce them up for resale. It is not durable at all. Doesn't take much handling for it to come off. Has it's uses, but for a permanent application not my choice.

 

[Ed Wingenroth]

Hi Dick from Dakota !!!

You mentioned you had some BPCR Rifle's that had the Pewter used as various reason's.... Some time back a fellow ran a tutorial showing the process of casting in-place his nose-cap ... Pewter has a very low melting point and can be formed with cardboard and other plyable material... I don't recall ever seeing pewter used on/before the cartridge era (not invented yet) but it's your Gun to do what you wish... Search in the Building section (and tutorial), you may find more info...

Good Luck !!!

Ed...

 

[Ed Wingenroth]

Hi Dick from Dakota !!!

You mentioned you had some BPCR Rifle's that had the Pewter used as various reason's.... Some time back a fellow ran a tutorial showing the process of casting in-place his nose-cap ... Pewter has a very low melting point and can be formed with cardboard and other plyable material... I don't recall ever seeing pewter used on/before the cartridge era (not invented yet) but it's your Gun to do what you wish... Search in the Building section (and tutorial), you may find more info... Also look in "YouTube" in "pewter cast nose cap".....

Good Luck !!!

Ed...

 

[LRB]

Hi Dick from Dakota !!!

You mentioned you had some BPCR Rifle's that had the Pewter used as various reason's.... Some time back a fellow ran a tutorial showing the process of casting in-place his nose-cap ... Pewter has a very low melting point and can be formed with cardboard and other plyable material... I don't recall ever seeing pewter used on/before the cartridge era (not invented yet) but it's your Gun to do what you wish... Search in the Building section (and tutorial), you may find more info...

Good Luck !!!

Ed...

Pewter? Not invented yet? :shocked2:

 

[matt denison]

Other way around.

Pewter was around before guns were.

 

[Black Hand]

Other way around.

Pewter was around before guns were.

Quite a bit before.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pewter

 

[Ed Wingenroth]

OK, poor choice of a word but we won't highjack this thread anymore than we already have !!! My point was made !!!

Ed...

 

[Razor62]

I believe that your point was mute however Red-Wing.
Dakota, I believe was referring to a French Grey finish and not a pewter nosecap. He was simply comparing the color of the finish to pewter.