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http://www.guns.com/review/gun-review-the-pietta-1858-remington-revolver/
Err. What do you think?
Err. What do you think?
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Pietta 1858 Remington Review
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rafterob
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Can't access that because I am at work now, but I have a Target model about 5 years old. Great gun, well built.
I like mine alot?
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I have an early .44 Pietta target model I've tuned up and it is my competitive gun. It is more accurate than my Ruger Old Army and I've never seen an ROA that is inaccurate.
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.36, .40 and .44, I like them all.
The .44 needs to have the chambers diameters opened up to better match the barrel but also to match each other.
I'd enjoy having a .42 to use off the shelf .44 caliber bullet molds.
The .44 needs to have the chambers diameters opened up to better match the barrel but also to match each other.
I'd enjoy having a .42 to use off the shelf .44 caliber bullet molds.
rodwha
58 Cal.
There's a fellow on another forum who countersunk his chambers slightly so as to be able to seat typical bullets. No need for a heel for loading straight.
“”¦it was a war of attribution.” The author probably meant attrition.
The author of the review says Remington’s bind up sooner than Colts due to the Rem’s top strap and the design of the cylinder pin. I don’t think that is true. He also says that his Rem began to bind up after 12 shots which makes me think he does not know about proper fowling mitigation procedure (i.e. over or under ball lube).
I have several Pietta Remington’s (and Colt’s) and recommend them to every informed shooter I know. I just love those things.
The author of the review says Remington’s bind up sooner than Colts due to the Rem’s top strap and the design of the cylinder pin. I don’t think that is true. He also says that his Rem began to bind up after 12 shots which makes me think he does not know about proper fowling mitigation procedure (i.e. over or under ball lube).
I have several Pietta Remington’s (and Colt’s) and recommend them to every informed shooter I know. I just love those things.
His experiance with Remington's binding up because of fouling could be due to his shooting a replica of a Remington Beal's.
This model of the 1858 was the first version and it was very poor at scraping the powder fouling off of the face of the cylinder.
The rapid binding up of this model is the reason the Army refused to accept it.
Notice the exposed barrel threads on the New Army.
Their sharp edges scrape away fouling on the cylinder face as the cylinder revolves.
This model of the 1858 was the first version and it was very poor at scraping the powder fouling off of the face of the cylinder.
The rapid binding up of this model is the reason the Army refused to accept it.
Notice the exposed barrel threads on the New Army.
Their sharp edges scrape away fouling on the cylinder face as the cylinder revolves.
Blackfingers
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Getting my Pietta Remington New Army 5 1/2" bbl today. What size round ball will I need? 
Robert Egler
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I use .451
rodwha
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.454" as Richard suggests. In far too many tests the larger ball does better. It's thought that the larger driving band created at seating gives more for the rifling to grab and increases the pressure ever so slightly.
I use .457" in mine but my chambers are reamed to .457" and chamfered, as well as my .456" conicals.
I use .457" in mine but my chambers are reamed to .457" and chamfered, as well as my .456" conicals.
Like Richard and rodwha suggest, use a larger diameter ball to get the best accuracy.
When the larger ball shears off lead as it enters the cylinder chamber, it leaves a flat (cylindrical) area which will engage the rifling in the barrel.
The longer this band is, the more lead will engage the rifling.
If your into playing with numbers and you want to calculate the length of this cylindrical driving band you just have to know the size of the unloaded ball and the size of the cylinders chambers.
This chamber size will depend on what company made the gun. For instance, Dixie Gunworks says the chambers in a Uberti .44 Remington are .450" in diameter.
Dixie also says one of the Pietta .44 Remingtons they sell has chambers that are .447" in diameter.
To calculate the width (length) of the cylindrical section on the ball, get your calculator out.
Enter the chamber diameter (I'll call it C for chamber below) and square it by multiplying it times itself. Store the answer in the calculators memory or write it out on a piece of paper.
Enter the ball diameter (I'll call it B for ball below) and square it by multiplying it times itself.
Now, recall the stored square of the chamber diameter and subtract it from the square of the ball diameter.
Poke the square root button on the calculator.
The results is the length of the cylindrical area on the ball.
What you did can be written with the formula √ B²-C² = length
Going thru this using the .447 Pietta chamber size and a .451 diameter ball I get:
√.451²-.447² = .0599 or, just under 1/16"
Doing this with the .454 diameter ball I get:
√.454²-.447² = .0794 or, just about 5/64".
That extra length is about 30% more than the smaller balls cylindrical length.
About the only negative about using the larger ball is, it is a little harder to ram into the chamber mouth.
When the larger ball shears off lead as it enters the cylinder chamber, it leaves a flat (cylindrical) area which will engage the rifling in the barrel.
The longer this band is, the more lead will engage the rifling.
If your into playing with numbers and you want to calculate the length of this cylindrical driving band you just have to know the size of the unloaded ball and the size of the cylinders chambers.
This chamber size will depend on what company made the gun. For instance, Dixie Gunworks says the chambers in a Uberti .44 Remington are .450" in diameter.
Dixie also says one of the Pietta .44 Remingtons they sell has chambers that are .447" in diameter.
To calculate the width (length) of the cylindrical section on the ball, get your calculator out.
Enter the chamber diameter (I'll call it C for chamber below) and square it by multiplying it times itself. Store the answer in the calculators memory or write it out on a piece of paper.
Enter the ball diameter (I'll call it B for ball below) and square it by multiplying it times itself.
Now, recall the stored square of the chamber diameter and subtract it from the square of the ball diameter.
Poke the square root button on the calculator.
The results is the length of the cylindrical area on the ball.
What you did can be written with the formula √ B²-C² = length
Going thru this using the .447 Pietta chamber size and a .451 diameter ball I get:
√.451²-.447² = .0599 or, just under 1/16"
Doing this with the .454 diameter ball I get:
√.454²-.447² = .0794 or, just about 5/64".
That extra length is about 30% more than the smaller balls cylindrical length.
About the only negative about using the larger ball is, it is a little harder to ram into the chamber mouth.
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