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Charlie - did you have a particular time period or era in mind? Type of use? (European Aristocracy? American Frontier? Working Man?) The experts will want to know these things before coming up with a suitable suggestion...which they will...
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Rod Lassey
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The most common pistol for the post-1800 fur trade was the cheap English trade pistol, or a Belgian knock-off of the same. Patterned roughly after the British military pistols of the time, these were big smoothbores, ranging in the .62 to .69 area. Brass mounted, brass or steel barreled, flintlock, and churned out by companies like Ketland & Co., who were also turning out NW guns. US companies like Deringer also made these.
Since these are typically well above .50 cal., it may not be what you're looking for. There were also pistols made by 'smiths that built rifles that be more in line with what you want. The 'Kentucky pistol' was often rifled, and smaller bore.
Though they get alot of bad press, the brass-barreled Ketland pistol by Middlesex Village Trading Co. is actually pretty close to correct---especially if one compares it to a Belgian pistol of the time.
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PKT.shtml
Don't know if this'll help you...
Rod
Since these are typically well above .50 cal., it may not be what you're looking for. There were also pistols made by 'smiths that built rifles that be more in line with what you want. The 'Kentucky pistol' was often rifled, and smaller bore.
Though they get alot of bad press, the brass-barreled Ketland pistol by Middlesex Village Trading Co. is actually pretty close to correct---especially if one compares it to a Belgian pistol of the time.
http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/PKT.shtml
Don't know if this'll help you...
Rod
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Pecatonica sells a kit for a pistol that is very close to a genuine Hawken pistol.
http://www.longrifles-pr.com/hawkenpistol.shtml
The factory made CVA Mountain pistol was (is?) a great gun for factory made. Looks fine and shoots fine.
The factory made CVA Mountain pistol was (is?) a great gun for factory made. Looks fine and shoots fine.
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Grandpa Ron
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In the old days you filled the chambers near full then compressed the charge with the ball. Grease over the ball helped prevent chain fires.
If you look after a shot, the grease is blown out of the adjacent cylinder. A poor ball to chamber fit could cause trouble.
Today few people fill the cylinders, so they fit a wad or corn meal under the ball. That keeps any flame sneaking past the ball from reaching the powder.
I have seen all six chamber fire from an ungreased cylinder so I know it can happen.
It was a bit exciting at the moment. :shocked2:
If you look after a shot, the grease is blown out of the adjacent cylinder. A poor ball to chamber fit could cause trouble.
Today few people fill the cylinders, so they fit a wad or corn meal under the ball. That keeps any flame sneaking past the ball from reaching the powder.
I have seen all six chamber fire from an ungreased cylinder so I know it can happen.
It was a bit exciting at the moment. :shocked2:
Grandpa Ron
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In the old days you filled the chambers near full then compressed the charge with the ball. Grease over the ball helped prevent chain fires.
If you look after a shot, the grease is blown out of the adjacent cylinder. A poor ball to chamber fit could cause trouble.
Today few people fill the cylinders, so they fit a wad or corn meal under the ball. That keeps any flame sneaking past the ball from reaching the powder.
I have seen all six chamber fire from an ungreased cylinder so I know it can happen.
It was a bit exciting at the moment. :shocked2:
If you look after a shot, the grease is blown out of the adjacent cylinder. A poor ball to chamber fit could cause trouble.
Today few people fill the cylinders, so they fit a wad or corn meal under the ball. That keeps any flame sneaking past the ball from reaching the powder.
I have seen all six chamber fire from an ungreased cylinder so I know it can happen.
It was a bit exciting at the moment. :shocked2:
I think you folks will find that there are a lot of places that deal with muzzleloaders who aren't into dealing with computers.
Many of them enjoy talking on the phone but when it comes to even owning a computer or reading/answering E-Mail messages they just aren't interested.
Many of them enjoy talking on the phone but when it comes to even owning a computer or reading/answering E-Mail messages they just aren't interested.
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Very True, Zonie! Since I have been involved in this sport/hobby/obsession I learned quickly that it was usually easier to call. Even some very large operations DO NOT own a single computer. Many have all the business they want without one, and have no plans to enter the digital age. I also learned that, unlike many modern businesses, this lack of "computer know-how" bears no reflection on the quality of their products or craftsmanship.
