Pistor rifle

[sawduster]

Hi,

Was looking for any information on a Pistor rifle.

Top of barrel marked:

PISTOR
KOST IN SCHMALKALDEN (made in Schmalkalden, Germany?)
By E.EYBEL IN NEWIORK (New York Spelled with I and all one word)(importer?)

Caliber - a .430 cast bullet just fits into barrel

Octagon barrel, length is 28-3/4"

Has a ladder barrel sight marked 300, 400, 500 ,600.

Rear sight with an elevation adjustable eyecup.

Front sight is a globe sight.

DST

Steel buttplate

Any information on the age, quality of Pistor rifles, target use, etc. would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Semisane]

Can't help you with any information Sawduster. But WOW, that's a beauty. I love those backaction locks.

 

[sbhg]

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_63&products_id=14601
http://www.bing.com/search?q=PISTOR/KOST+IN+SCHMALKALDEN+&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n&sk=
I tried doing a search @ the above, but i can't read German. :idunno:

 

[Bill Hall]

I don't have any info either, but Wow! Check out how well the two pieces of wood are joined. Looks like the front piece is the working half, and the back piece is the good looking half. Fantastic craftmanship.

Since it's a target rifle, I looked through a list of makers by Ned Roberts, but it's not listed there. But I wonder if it was specifically made for the Creedmoor range in New York? Bill

 

[ericb]

Pistor & Kost were makers in Schmalkalden...

 

[TFoley]

Pistor & Kost were makers in Schmalkalden...

Wilhelm Pistor, 1809 - 1870, head of gun manufacturing in Schmalkalden.

Here is the connection with Walther - there is no charge for the translation, I do it every day of my life -

Already early on, centers of firearms manufacturing were established around smelting works. That was the case in Thuringia as well, in the region around Suhl and Zella-Mehlis. Modest blacksmiths gave rise to special trades such as that of rifle maker, which was the trade of the forefathers of the WALTHER family. One of them was August Theodor Walther, who married the granddaughter of the respected rifle maker Gustav Wilhelm Pistor, from Asbach-Schmalkalden.
Her son, Carl Wilhelm Freund, established the history of the WALTHER company. Born in 1858, he started his own rifle making business after completing his education in 1886. With the assistance of his apprentice, Carl Walther began
to manufacture hunting and target shooting rifles using the Martini and Aydt systems. At that time, the 28-year-old had only very little equipment and few tools at his disposal.'

tac

'If you are reading this, thank a teacher. If you are are reading this in English, then thank a soldier.'

 

[sawduster]

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_24_63&products_id=14601
http://www.bing.com/search?q=PISTOR/KOST+IN+SCHMALKALDEN+&go=&form=QBLH&qs=n&sk=
I tried doing a search @ the above, but i can't read German. :idunno:

Bought this rifle because of the one Dixie had. Talked to them a couple months ago and they didn't have any other information other than what was posted on the ad. They also have had it for a while.

Google will translate the German (or any language) for you.

 

[sawduster]

I don't have any info either, but Wow! Check out how well the two pieces of wood are joined. Looks like the front piece is the working half, and the back piece is the good looking half. Fantastic craftmanship.

Since it's a target rifle, I looked through a list of makers by Ned Roberts, but it's not listed there. But I wonder if it was specifically made for the Creedmoor range in New York? Bill

Thanks Bill,

I'll take a few more pictures of the joining. If it wasn't for the color contrast, would be hard to tell. The checkering flows form one peice to the next. Originally thought it was repaired, but was this a way they were made?

 

[sawduster]

Can't help you with any information Sawduster. But WOW, that's a beauty. I love those backaction locks.

Thanks.

 

[sawduster]

Pistor & Kost were makers in Schmalkalden...

Found a lot of Pistor, but never found anything from Kost. The translations for Kost didn't make sense for a rifle. Do you have a source for Kost as a maker?

Thanks

 

[sawduster]

Pistor & Kost were makers in Schmalkalden...

Wilhelm Pistor, 1809 - 1870, head of gun manufacturing in Schmalkalden.

Here is the connection with Walther - there is no charge for the translation, I do it every day of my life -

Already early on, centers of firearms manufacturing were established around smelting works. That was the case in Thuringia as well, in the region around Suhl and Zella-Mehlis. Modest blacksmiths gave rise to special trades such as that of rifle maker, which was the trade of the forefathers of the WALTHER family. One of them was August Theodor Walther, who married the granddaughter of the respected rifle maker Gustav Wilhelm Pistor, from Asbach-Schmalkalden.
Her son, Carl Wilhelm Freund, established the history of the WALTHER company. Born in 1858, he started his own rifle making business after completing his education in 1886. With the assistance of his apprentice, Carl Walther began
to manufacture hunting and target shooting rifles using the Martini and Aydt systems. At that time, the 28-year-old had only very little equipment and few tools at his disposal.'

tac

'If you are reading this, thank a teacher. If you are are reading this in English, then thank a soldier.'

A Guesstimate on the age 1860's?

Is there any information on Kost?

Danke

 

[ericb]

Well, there certainly seems to be a lot of info on Pistor, but very little on Kost. Apparently the Pistor's were pretty well known going back into the 18th century, and they certainly weren't your average Kmart Guns: http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm53.pl?f=NR&c=57542&t=temartic_S_GB&db=kat53_s.txt

Judging by the reputation and quality of the Pistor guns, it's hard to imagine how or why he would need anybody else's name on his Lockplates...

 

[dyemaker]

You beat me to those photos. I had been admiring their firearms for a while and here is another link. Not much info but it shows a couple more examples of their work. Very nice muzzleloader :thumbsup:

Link

 

[ericb]

Yeah, they sure got it right. I'd give anything to be a Fly on the wall in that shop for a day...

Eric

 

[sawduster]

Schmalkalden,

Here is a picture showing the name.