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Flash Pan Dan

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I just acquired, from TOTW, a 50 caliber plains rifle stamped ”˜Hastings’ it has a L&R lock and a tapered barrel and what looks like a very fine piece of maple for a stock. Does anyone have any knowledge of or had any dealings with rifles made by Hastings?

Thank You.
 
Yes, I had one in .54. They were commissioned by Hastings and built by a gunsmithing school in CO, IIRC, limited to around 200 total rifles. Cabela's sold them in the late 90's for around $1350. I bought mine directly from Hastings in KS in '98 for $900 after Cabela's stopped selling them. The head of the project at Hastings told me it had a Badger barrel from Ernie Stallman. Mine shot very well, too. I wanted an authentic looking Hawken and just never thought it looked like any Hawken I'd ever seen photos of, so I sold it for what I paid for it.
 
Thanks BriR that helps. Knowing that much I’ll have foundation for judging what I am looking at when I get the rifle next Wednesday. Other than not having a entry thimble what else did you find not to your liking? From the pictures on TOTW website it looks like a very well made rifle with good parts and well executed.
 
Dan, it was a very well made rifle. Like I said, I was not going to be satisfied, though, until I got a Hawken that was as an exact a replica as I could find. I actually sent pictures of it to the Museum of the Fur Trade in Chadron, NE to get an evaluation. They emailed back and said they'd never seen that crescent cut on the comb of the stock on other Hawkens. That, combined with what I thought was rather slender dimensions, made me want to look for something else.

This spring I ordered a J&S Hawken kit from Don Stith and had it sent to John Bergmann to build. I talked for quite awhile with Don, and he'll no doubt talk your ear off with his knowledge of the Hawken. He's a hell of a nice guy, too. Anyway, he said he was involved in the design of that Hastings Hawken, but Cabela's would not implement his recommendations in making it more authentic, especially regarding the stock and buttplate. I guess they didn't want to hear an expert's opinion. Anyway, I got my kit at what I thought was a reasonable price, and had it built by a very experienced, well-regarded builder for a very reasonable price. I went though the Hastings Hawken, a Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken - both very nice rifles - until I came to my Stith/Bergmann J&S Hawken and I could not be happier now.
 
Thank you for the heads-up on this rifle. I think you and I are on the same wave length in regards what we are looking for when it comes to Hawkens. I’m glad I bought it through TOTW, they are good people to do business with if I do decide to send it back. By the way, may I trouble you for contact information for John Bergmann?
 
BriR thank you for the info you posted. I talked with a gentleman today that asked me to find out what I could on the 54cal rifle. He picked one up last week thinking it was a cheap reproduction model. Can't wait to tell him he hit a home run.
 
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