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Is there a resource where one could get the dimensions of a rock lock if one had the desire to build one from scratch.

It is the beginning of winter and I think uncle needs a project to keep him from going stir crazy. I have a feeling this could keep him busy for hours, days, weeks.

Uncle has very good metal working skills. He has drilled and rifled a barrel, built underhammer locks from scratch, understands heat treatment and has made springs for a living so this would be very doable if he had something to work from.

Thanks,

Clutch
 
clutch-

it sounds a bit daunting from where i sit, but if you feel up to it, by all means give it a try.

as far as exact dimensions, you may want to check out Track of the Wolf's catalog, which doesn't give you exact measurements as a set of shop drawings would, but it does provide full size photographs, so i imagine that, with a little patience, you could work up a useable set of drawings.

good luck!

msw
 
There used to be a book available called "Hand forging the muzzle loading gun lock" by "Pryor Mountain Bill" Newton.
Used to be a website somewhere but i lost the address and google is no help on the matter
 
Track of The Wolf has full size blue prints for sale.
Also I bought H. Houses Videos and book with full size print .
Slenk
 
A guy on the Home Gunsmithing Forum did that a couple years ago and posted a bunch of work-in-progress pics. Pretty impressive to say the least. I recall he used a plate of tool steel for the lockplate and pieces of railroad track for the frizzen & hammer. The hammer was daunting b/c of the complex architecture, but he got around that by making it in 2 pieces and welding the pieces together.
DJL
 
Slenk said:
Track of The Wolf has full size blue prints for sale.
Also I bought H. Houses Videos and book with full size print .
Slenk

I've searched around on tow and can't find the blue print offering.

Clutch
 
Volume I of the Journel of Historical Armsmaking Technology (a National Muzzleloading Rifle Association publication, first printing 1985) includes full size patterns for the most of the parts of an English flintlock ca. 1775-80. The Journal also shows the process of hand forging and filing up the parts.

This little 85 page paperback book is out of print but it shows up for sale on EBay and Amazon or other book sellers.

Gary
 
Clutch: The book that I got from Pryor Mt.Bill Newton is Hand Forging--History--Patterns of muzzle Loading Gun Locks.

The address: Bill Newton
741 road 5
Deaver, Wy. 28421
Phone; 307-548-2862
It says to e-mail:BILL'SHOMEPAGE (I never tried this)

I did call him on the phone.

Olie
 
If you cannot get it from him I found it being adverted by Dixie as well... :hatsoff:
[url] http://www.dixiegunworks.com/...13771&osCsid=37983c619f8e60c85b9588073e2cacab[/url]

Davy
 
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There is an early edition by Bill Newton titled "Selected Muzzle Loading Gun Lock Patterns". From matchlocks to underhammers and mule ear. Hard to find these days but a good addition to a library... Warren
 
I used the TOTW catalog to make all the parts for my smoothie. I just traced the pic(the pics are full sized) onto a piece of paper and glued it onto a piece of metal. I cutout the pattern and shaped to fit. This seemed to work ot just fine for me.
 
There was a series of three books that were printed, probably during the 70's, that had exactly what you were looking for. They were mainly blueprint books, with some written steps, of all the components and processes necessary to make a percussion, flintlock, or wheellock rifle or pistol. The interesting thing about the books is that it dimensioned out every element of the gun in study. I have all three books, but I cannot remember the author, though I think he wrote them somewhere in Europe. At the time I was buying them they were selling for about $15, now out of print I have seen individual copies going over $100 on Ebay. The Journal of Historical Armsmaking volume that deals with hand building a lock is in my mind a far better book on the subject. Another possibility is to buy your uncle a Siler kit, have him construct that and than build a copy from scratch afterwords.
 

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