Poll

[atr]

So you pull into a truckstop and see a crowd around the back of a pickup and folks are taking pictures . Curiosity gets the best of you so you wonder over to see what it's all about . There is a beautiful elk in the back of the pickup and it's rack is magnificent . You listen to the hunters story while he tells of bugling at sunrise and the elk walks into the meadow . The hunter edges from behind a tree and fires his .54 GPR and the patched ball strikes exactly where it's supposed to . 185 measured yards . Do you ....
(a) Think he's a jerk because he is a jerk ?
(b) Think he's a jerk because the energy at 185 yards isn't sufficient to make a clean kill ?
(c) Think he's a jerk because shooting offhand at game that far away is unethical ?
(d) Give him the benefit of doubt because you know nothing of him and he may fire 100 balls per week and could duplicate that shot anytime he wishes and just because you can't , doesn't mean , he can't ?
(e) Your milage may vary .
(f) Anything else to ad ?

 

[Dave K]

Listen to him talk. I jerk can't hide behind his bragging very long. They usually show their colors real soon. Like wise a knowledgeable person has a way of saying things that you don't have to ask if he is up on his game. You just know it.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Always multiply distance of game at time of shot statements, weight of fish landed and number of push-ups done recently by 0.40 for a more reliable figure. :haha:

 

Or point out all the blood bruising on the shoulders and simply comment how those darn weatherby sure ruin a lot of meat as you walk away ::

 

You, (I), weren't, (wasn't)[url] there...ain[/url]'t a lot that can be said except for Daves reply. If the guy is blowing smoke up everyones skirts it will eventually come to light. Usually sooner than later.

Back when I shot a handgun or rifle almost every day there were a lot of things I simply wouldn't relate to people who didn't shoot long distances with either, they simply wouldn't believe them. With those who did shoot long distances I had some very interesting and learning conversations.

With this supposedly ficticious character attention to his diatribe will reveal the truth rather quickly.

Vic

 

[GobblerKnob]

In my line of work, I've found that the story gets better the more people there are listening to it. I've also found that for whatever reason, those same guys wouldn't have taken a shot like that if the game was nothing to "brag" about. Had it been a spike or a cow, scrub buck or doe, the shot probably wouldn't have been taken, IMHO. The longer you listen to a person talk, the easier it will become to tell if he is a POS or not.
Rick

 

ahhhhhhhhh now what fun is that ,
congrats the guy and tell him it was one hell of a shot with a bow :blah:

 

Gobble...awe manure! A GAME WARDEN. Now I really, really, gotta be careful what I say. :haha: :bull: :haha: :blah:
I can relate to what was said about what can be done if you spend a lot of time doing it and others who don't know, also won't believe.
I used to draw from the holster with my old model Single Six and shoot small tin cans in mid air, got so we could hit washers tossed in the air most of the time.
( Musketman I can smell you a commin'! NO! Not CLOTHES washers, them round flat things with holes in the middle.)
In my younger days I pratically lived in the woods, Maybe 'cause I weren't allowed in tha house, but that's 'nuther story.
Once I shot 3 Wood Ducks with ONE shot. (oppppps, the limit then was only two!)
Well twern't maw fault! I shot a lone hen flying two feet off the top of a creek going dead away. When she floated down to a tree across the creek where I could fetch her there layed two dead drakes!
'Nuther time I shot THREE squirrels with one shot! With a 28 gauge no less. I onliest seed one, shot it and it and two mo' fell!
I shot at a running button buck with a smooth bore 12 gauge pump and hit the thing in the back of the head at 175 paces!
Yes you and I know I had NO business shooting at that deer with a smoothbore foster slug, but I did and I ate venison that winter!
Then there was the time.........

 

[atr]

There actually was a reason for posting the , 'poll'. As big game season gets closer all the talk at work is hunting . I work with a few bow hunters and although i'm unsure whether knowing everything about everything is particular to bow hunter, the ones i work with know everything about everything , just ask them . I mentioned that both of my brothers shoot to 60 yards with thier pin sights and right away i was told how unethical it was and what poor sportsmen my brothers are . These guys know nothing of my brothers but they do know that bowhunting is limited to 40 yards because some guru told them that . Archery moose season starts on September 15th and my brothers start preparing about the middle of June . They shoot from the ground , they shoot from the roof of the garage and from the roof of one of the brothers two story house . June and July , they shoot 3 evening per week . By August and into September they are shooting 5 evenings per week . Put the ace of spades on a target 60 yards out and they don't miss . Both have shot more moose than most people will ever see . They are both excellent hunters which brings us back to the 'poll'. Shots that could be considered low percentage or marginal by most are relatively easy , for a very few .

 

[roundball]

Totally understand your point about your brothers...I bowhunted heavily for several years before my quadruple bypass operation where they cut my sternum[url] apart...in[/url] the 1.5yr layoff I got so heavily into muzzleloaders I've never gone back to bowhunting.

But when I was eating, drinking, sleeping bowhunting, I practiced from a treestand in my back yard 5-6 days a week year round...you can't practice closer than 20-25yds because you keep hitting shafts already in the target butt, and practicing at that close range really doesn't improve your skills...I mainly practiced at 30 and 50yds because the longer distances really forces you to perfect your shooting skills, and got good at it.

I took 26 bucks & does all less than 30yds, most less than 20yds, with the treestand overlooking a trail / ditch crossings, etc...but I would have taken a 60yd shot anyday if it was a clear standing broadside heart/lung shot

 

I got it as well; I just don

 

[GobblerKnob]

ATR ~ You hit the nail on the head about practice. That's what makes a guy (or girl!) good at what they do. Maybe some of that sentiment comes from the point that maybe the implement being used can't deliver the energy it takes at the farther ranges to effectively kill the animal being shot at.
I investigated a non-fatal shooting incident a few years ago where a guy shot at what he thought was a strutting gobbler, but in fact was two hunters sitting on a rock. If that in itself wasn't bad enough, his stated reasons for doing it was:
1) it was two days until the end of the season and he didn't have a bird yet
2) he was using a 10 gauge and his gun could do it.
The distance was a measured 63 yards! Thank God his gun couldn't do it! That's a perfect example of what greed can do to a person. Fortunately, the two victims weren't seriously injured.
The bull elk scenario sounds like greed won over common sense and good judgment.