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Are you SURE they weren’t smoking? Was someone operating a grinder or spark producing equipment? Every black power or smokeless reloading accident I know of was caused by both. Unless there was a propane leak.
 
More speculation here, but seems LIKELY there must have been a sizable quantity of powder on their reloading bench?

I always make it a point to have nothing at mine except the powder in the dispenser, and the only primers are in the feeder.

Everything else is put away in a separate room.

And I quit smoking 20 years ago, Thank God.
 
Sorry for your loss. I hope your friend fully recovers.

Powder storage, properly done is really only an issue immediately after an incident when a fire is started. If it is stored properly, away from the loading bench itself in a steel cabinet designed not to hold pressure (so as to forestall an explosion) it will be protected from sparks and will not ignite until a fire reaches it and heats it sufficiently.

You should always only keep what powder you are actually using on the bench at any given time. Remember storing powder in a non-temperature-controlled area (like outdoors in a shed) can lead to its premature degradation and also cause it to spontaneously combust. Heat is the enemy of modern smokeless.

Most accidents of this type are caused by primer dust accumulated in progressive presses or a cocked, misaligned or mishandled primer, exacerbated by excess powder laying around. Entire tubes of primers in a progressive press have been known to detonate like mini pipe bombs.

Loading black powder cartridges with drop tubes not designed for black is also hazardous, as with plastic, static electricity can build up and you could get a spark with steel, so a purpose-built drop tube made from brass is a must

Of course, smoking and or any open flame is an absolute no-no which should go without saying.

Handloading is an exacting and demanding hobby, it is somewhat miraculous that more are not injured, and it is sad that the rest of us need this kind of reminder to remain vigilant.
 
Are you SURE they weren’t smoking? Was someone operating a grinder or spark producing equipment? Every black power or smokeless reloading accident I know of was caused by both. Unless there was a propane leak.

I know that the survivor doesn’t smoke at all. I think the other smoked occasionally, less than one smoke per day, but knowing how careful he was I can’t imagine that he would have been smoking. But no, I can’t be sure. The deceased was operating a four stage press, the other watching and chatting. No other equipment in use, e.g. bench grinder.

More speculation here, but seems LIKELY there must have been a sizable quantity of powder on their reloading bench?

That’s possible. I’m not certain but I think the property owner (the deceased friend) had several four-stage loaders.

The explosion was BIG and was heard up to 15 miles away. I don’t know how much powder would have had to ignite for an explosion that size.
 
Thank you for posting this. It brings to light what can happen in an instant and at times we don't get second chances. I am certainly one that gets complacent because I have been hand loading for a long time. Have well over 100lbs of powder and 100,000 primers on on. This has raised awareness of just how dangerous this can be.i will certainly change some of what I do while hand loading, etc.
My prayers go out to all involved with this tradegy.
 
Hard to say after the event - a local shooter has had a tray of Primers detonate in a hand priming press - really messed him up but he's ok now.
Also in Australia a shooter had a can of powder explode on him - luckily only damaging his house - that was put down to Double Base powder deteriorating and becoming sensitive. Normally Smokeless powder will just burn more or less violently. Black has one burning rate - Bang!!
Hope your neighbour recovers.
 
Loading black powder cartridges with drop tubes not designed for black is also hazardous, as with plastic, static electricity can build up and you could get a spark with steel, so a purpose-built drop tube made from brass is a must
This is a myth
Static will not set off black powder, there have been tests, upon tests, purposely trying to set BP off with static and electric charges and it just does not happen. Search the internet and you can find videos of it.

A Myth that will not die.
 
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