Possibles Bag

[Finnwolf]

Hi Everyone,
I'm thinkin' of movin' up the PC scale and finally get a horn and bag. Up to now, I always just took a shooting box to the range and for huntin', I just take 3 speedloaders, each holding a .50 PRB and 90 grns GOEX FFG.
My first thought is I'd like to make them. I have a good book on horn making but nothin on bags. Any recommendations on bag kits? I want an authentic Eastern woodlands bag from the late 1700's.
Thanks
Finnwolf

 

[Swampman]

http://s93758715.onlinehome.us/eclg/sacks.shtml

I just bought one from Jack Hubbard. He's the best.

 

[oldmaster]

You can check the archives here and see lots of different bags that can be made for a lot less the $150.00. YIKES!No offense meant. If you make your own bag/bags, you can have fun and the pride of a job done by your own hands. As long as your happy with it and it serves your purpose, it will be the best pouch/bag you ever had. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Norskie]

So you're getting the urge to go primitive! Good for you. You'll find that our ancestors knew what they were doing.
I haven't seen any bag kits that are particularly period correct. Of course, since I make them, I'm not looking very hard. I usually suggest that a beginner who wants to make one bag should find a pattern in a book. Cutting leather to a pattern isn't the hard part for a beginner, proper saddle stitching is.
Stay away from laced bags, they were rare back in the day. They usually meant someone was making a bag in a hurry without proper materials. IMHO, laced seams look amaturish and I know they are not watertight.
Madison Grant's book on shooting bags is a good place to start, but don't stop there since we've learned more since he wrote it. Many other books and articles out there.

 

[riarcher]

They usually meant someone was making a bag in a hurry without proper materials. IMHO, laced seams look amaturish and I know they are not watertight.
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Ouch! thanks a lot. :bow:

 

[hobbles]

LeatherMoose

""They usually meant someone was making a bag in a hurry without proper materials""

Yep.
My first trip over the mountain I rode thru the gorge in Washington state and it got a lil wet, I took two weeks I think,, I had to make covers and pouch's and such for a lot of my gear, and all I had to do it with was some spent 30/30 shells and a sharp knife and hides, That's how I got to lacing, I've been doin it that way ever since,

""they were rare back in the day""

I wonder,,,,,[url] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/hobbles/lacin.jpg[/url]

 

[Norskie]

Okay, folks, it's old alligator mouth again, spouting off. I didn't mean to give offence about laced bags, but I have not seen any from the period. That being said, the laced bags you fellows have shown us are quite handsome. But I'm such a danged snob that I can't enjoy them.
Boy, I wish those smily thingies worked on my computer!

 

[hobbles]

Okay, folks, it's old alligator mouth again, spouting off. I didn't mean to give offence about laced bags, but I have not seen any from the period. That being said, the laced bags you fellows have shown us are quite handsome. But I'm such a danged snob that I can't enjoy them.
Boy, I wish those smily thingies worked on my computer!

Mornin LeatherMoose
I wasn't bein defencive, I was just wonderin,, I didn't sea you as spoutin off, And I was interested in your veiw, And as >but I have not seen any from the period.

 

[Bearbait2]

Mr. Riarcher,
We could use another bag. Really like the looks of the laced bag you show and will work in that direction this winter, time permiting.
Best Wishes

 

[riarcher]

Thanks, and if you keep the lace holes small, wax the layers & lace before lacing (keeping the lace rounded where it goes through the holes), and wax all and put it in a oven at 160-ish deg, and do it again, it'll keep things really dry quite well.
After all, folks have been lacing skins to hold water and wine since before Moses. :v

Leathermoose - no offense taken really, I just think you're wrong. :grin: Lacing is such an older art form for crafting than "saddle stitching" I'm willing to wager that most "do-it-yourselfers" laced more often than stitched. However, I'd also guess that most "store boughts" were probably stitched. :hatsoff:

 

[Ivery Keys]

The November/December issue of MUZZLELOADER has some suggestions and a simple plan...

Regards,

Ivery