Post deleted by Claude

bigger rifle and ZOOOM lens :youcrazy:

the sad part really is there are people who will justify this type of hunting just as they do with other types .
does this sound familure

 

[Hoyt]

What's next ?? can there be a next ??

Well..as an old feller told me one time when I was going through some real hard times..I made the comment.."Man it just can't get no worse than this"..and he said "Oh yes..it gets a lot worser."

What's next..is already here CLONING BIG BUCKS

 

[loophole]

Can any of us imagine being a Dakota hunter on the plains in 1803 when Lewis and Clark came into his camp with the first rifle he ever saw? If you read the journals, the expedition often encountered Grizzlys which took several shots to stop--what chance did the Dakota have with just his recurve bow and maybe a lance aganist ole Ephriam?
Did he see firearms as modern thechnoloy which took all the challenge out of the hunt?
Go back a couple of hundred years when the ancestor of our plains hunter first saw one of his buddies kill a buffalo using a horse the Spaniards had brought to Amderica. The horse made hunting buffalo many times easier than it would have been on foot--did this ancient warrior sneer at the fellow who had learned to ride the horse?
Go in the other direction--did anyone complain that the Sharpes rifle, which made it possible to slaughter millions of buffalo in a decade, was unethical because it gave the hunter an unfair advantage as compared to the muzzleloader??
Don't get me wrong--I share your disgust for killing penraised animals in fenced enclosures and hunting by remote control. However, I'm not sure I can explain why the march of technology ought to stop with a muzzleloader or a centerfire as opposed to a laser.
The only valid distinction I can see is between hunting as a necessary part of a way of life, as it was for many of our ancestors even into the 1930's, and hunting merely for the gratification which comes from killing something. I haven't hunted for a long time. I admire those of you who hunt in traditional ways and eat what you kill, and I guess if I were elected king I would ban anything more advanced than a single shot gun or a recurve bow, but I would have to admit the line I would draw would be purely arbitrary.
I agree that part of the phenomenom can be traced to a society which is on the brink of substituting computer images for reality, but I don't know how to help my grand son deal with any of this.

 

[hobbles]

so you can sea a correlation with the inventing of the rifle and hunting from your puter sittin at home in your chair

 

[musketman]

how do you sneek up on a deer if it is out of range with a remote rifle? :what:

Easy, you press the mute button...

 

[Tahquamenon]

If you read the journals, the expedition often encountered Grizzlys which took several shots to stop--what chance did the Dakota have with just his recurve bow and maybe a lance aganist ole Ephriam?

Shooting traditional PRB's no doubt.

Must not have had good shot placement.
:hmm:
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Keep showing your grandson muzzleloading. He will hopefully pick up on it. Perhaps not right away, but someday...

:thumbsup:

 

If you read the journals, the expedition often encountered Grizzlys which took several shots to stop--what chance did the Dakota have with just his recurve bow and maybe a lance aganist ole Ephriam?

Shooting traditional PRB's no doubt.

Must not have had good shot placement.
:hmm:
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Keep showing your grandson muzzleloading. He will hopefully pick up on it. Perhaps not right away, but someday...

:thumbsup:

I think it was a mere "miscalulation" on the part of the expedition leaders, in regards to the bears they were to encounter. Ther ain't nuthin wrong with roundballs, had they used bigger ones.

Now for a little "humor",..... git yore Lewis and Clark rifles here for only $995.00:.... http://www.missouririvertraders.com/rifles.htm

YMHS
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[Stumpkiller]

Now for a little "humor",..... git yore Lewis and Clark rifles here for only $995.00:....

It's always dangerous when they produce such authentic exact reproductions that can pass as the real thing. They should mark them somehow so they can be distinguished by experts to prevet fraud or error down the road.

:shake:

 

Now for a little "humor",..... git yore Lewis and Clark rifles here for only $995.00:....

It's always dangerous when they produce such authentic exact reproductions that can pass as the real thing. They should mark them somehow so they can be distinguished by experts to prevet fraud or error down the road.

:shake:

:crackup: :crackup: It might be 'cause I'm "blind",.... but, them reproductions look like "gussied-up" CVA's!! :crackup: :crackup:

(Look closer, and tell me what you think!! :winking

YMHS
rolling

 

[merdean]

They look just like the real thing to me!!! I would be hard pressed to tell the difference. If it weren't for the special engraving, some historian might thing he had just found a lost cache! Gotta get me one of each of them! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :results: And can any one tell me where to get the rifle with the mute button? Is that a silencer?

 

They look just like the real thing to me!!! I would be hard pressed to tell the difference. If it weren't for the special engraving, some historian might thing he had just found a lost cache! Gotta get me one of each of them! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :results:

Weeeeeeeell,.... they do come with a "letter of authenticity", so maybe $995.00 isn't unreasonable!! :what:

YMHS
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[BLAHMAN]

They look just like the real thing to me!!!

Weeeeeeeell,.... they do come with a "letter of authenticity", so maybe $995.00 isn't unreasonable!! :what:

YMHS
rollingb

I wonder what the letter says, let me guess: "sucker"! :shake:

 

[jim gray]

Can any of us imagine being a Dakota hunter on the plains in 1803 when Lewis and Clark came into his camp with the first rifle he ever saw? If you read the journals, the expedition often encountered Grizzlys which took several shots to stop--what chance did the Dakota have with just his recurve bow and maybe a lance aganist ole Ephriam?
Did he see firearms as modern thechnoloy which took all the challenge out of the hunt?
Go back a couple of hundred years when the ancestor of our plains hunter first saw one of his buddies kill a buffalo using a horse the Spaniards had brought to Amderica. The horse made hunting buffalo many times easier than it would have been on foot--did this ancient warrior sneer at the fellow who had learned to ride the horse?
Go in the other direction--did anyone complain that the Sharpes rifle, which made it possible to slaughter millions of buffalo in a decade, was unethical because it gave the hunter an unfair advantage as compared to the muzzleloader??

In the first two cases. I have to admit that if I were confronting a ticked of grizzly or hunting buffalo in order to survive, I wouldn't be very sporting in my choice of weapons or methods. In matters of survival, ethics are not necessarily desirable. The difference is that in the case of the Indian killing animals was a necessity for him to defend himself and feed his family. Native Americans did not of the luxory of hunting for sport and recreation. How many of you would hunt the way you do if your families depended on the hunt as much as the Native Americans did?

As for the Buffalo hunters on the plains with their Sharpes Rifles, I don't think that that is an event that we would want to see repeated. Hopefully, we have come a long way as a society since then, but I am skeptical of that. The slaughter of the buffalo was just another tactic employed our ancestors to drive the Indians onto reservations.

 

[bezoar]

My response to your post is this.

The article leaves a few things out from what ive read on this company else where. This article fails to mention that you need to get a hunting liscence to shoot a critter. Shooting a squirrel or even a feral hog without a liscence can get you sent to jail. Trust me, every state in the union will extradite you to texas to answer to the texas judicial system.

Also you would have to purchase any of the exotic animals you actually shoot. No businessman will let you shoot an animal for 20 dollar a month online membership when he can have someone pay 3200 for the priviledge of hunting the exotic animal over a carrot pile, and at the same time pay 10,000 just to buy the animal that is selected for harvesting.

Nothing new from the old european birdhunts where 30 guys with double barrel shotguns stand in front of a big cage full of birds and shoot right when those birds are released from the cage. Or how about using 90 dogs to round up every deer in the jolly old forrest so a few mounted "hunters" can shoot a few of the deer.

 

I wonder what the letter says, let me guess: "sucker"! :shake:

BLAHMAN,.... :crackup: :thumbsup: I do have to admit to be'n somewhat intrigued by the "letter of authenticity",.... I wonder if a fella could jest buy the "letter", and not the rifle????? :hmm:

P.S.,.... My wife just e-mailed Missouri River Traders, and asked if she could purchase a "Certificate of Authenticity"!!

I'm sure she'll git an interest'n response!! :crackup:

YMHS
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[BLAHMAN]

Ya know, rollinb, I bet the letter, over a period of time, would have more value than the product!

Who knows, maybe the letter could be sold to P.T. Barnum's musuem or Ripley's "Believe it or Not". :haha:

 

Ya know, rollinb, I bet the letter, over a period of time, would have more value than the product!

Who knows, maybe the letter could be sold to P.T. Barnum's musuem or Ripley's "Believe it or Not". :haha:

BLAHMAN,.... My wife jest recieved a very nice email from Stew at Missouri River Traders when asked if she could purchase the "Certificate of Authenticity", here's the email in it's entirety,....

No

:crackup:
YMHS
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[BLAHMAN]

Ya know, rollinb, I bet the letter, over a period of time, would have more value than the product!

Who knows, maybe the letter could be sold to P.T. Barnum's musuem or Ripley's "Believe it or Not". :haha:

BLAHMAN,.... My wife jest recieved a very nice email from Stew at Missouri River Traders when asked if she could purchase the "Certificate of Authenticity", here's the email in it's entirety,....

No

:crackup:


YMHS
rollingb

Stew? Stew? Isn't stew a thick sort of soup? :crackup:

 

BLAHMAN,.... Yep!!.... and, I have it on good authority thet Stew was included on the Lewis and Clark expedition!!

YMHS
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[BLAHMAN]

That's a good come back! :applause: :applause: