Problem for Jeremiah Johnson?

[Slamfire]

Ive always laughed at the recoil shot too :rotf: Just another example of hollywierd and their misconceptions.I shoot a 75 cal(smoothie) with hefty loads and it won't kick that much.....Mark

Yeah, but you guys didn't start out with a .30 caliber Hawken gun. :rotf:

 

Nope no 30 cal for me it was a "BB" gun for me to start off with :blah: :rotf: .... but at least it shot round balls :hmm:

 

[tom hargrove]

:winking: laugh now but why is it that when we flip the channels when run accross it that the last push of the button on the remote. :shake: and why is that when jeremiah saw (ol`grizz) being chased by a bear running toward the cabin ,he didn`t close the door. :shocked2:

 

[RC]

okay now ya got me watchin fer "stuff".....check out the chain on the trap when he catches first beaver after leavin grizz's place...tell me what you see........... :hmm: RC (and i ain't seen that fire tower yet!)

 

[rabbit03]

and the saga continues:

After Johnson surprises the settler in the crazy womans cabin he (the settler) fires a shot from his rifle but there is no smoke whatsoever that comes from it. Maybe he is using smokeless!!!

When Fancy Shirt looses an arrow in front of Johnson and Bear Claw after they have killed the Elk, the arrow is just on the other side of a sapling (obviously the point where they were supposed to stay in back of while the shot was made) but as soon as Fancy Shirt arrives Bear Claw pulls the arrow from the tree and hands it to Fancy Shirt but vuala! no sapling is present. HHHMMM

When Johnson says goodbye to Del for the last time Johnson has no tamohawk scar present but in the next scene when he gets shot off his horse (shot hit his rifle) the scar re appears!

Just for yalls info.

rabbit03 (the observer)

ps did someone say they saw a fire tower lookout??

 

[rabbit03]

I hear that the 30 caliber Hawken was borrowed from the book (one of the only things according to the book) and it was a misprint, a typographical error, it should have been a .50 in the book is what I have been told.

So one of the major things wrong in the book just happened to be one of the only things they stuck with in the movie!!!

rabbit03

 

[davy]

Winers .. watch the dang thing 'n enjoy it for what it is! :rotf:

"Wall pilgrim .. skin that one 'n I'll get anuther for yas!" :thumbsup:

Davy

 

[Blizzard of '93]

Talk about misconceptions - In the scene where Johnson is floundering around in the creek trying to catch a trout, how long would a person last without having a roaring fire already going? Surrounded by snow and ice a man would go into shock from hypothermia quickly - semmingly Redford (Johnson) is impervious to cold! :hmm:

 

[Desert Rat]

OK here's my bit.... unless there was another Gila river the directions he got to get to the Rockies to catch beaver etc. would have put him in Mexico. And then along the same lines if the army came up from the Gila to Crow country wouldn't it have taken longer than the poor pilgrims could have survived?

And how big was the department of Colorado in the late 40's early 50's? (no really that is a serious question)

 

OK here's my bit.... unless there was another Gila river the directions he got to get to the Rockies to catch beaver etc. would have put him in Mexico.

The producers will be glad to know that even the experts on the forum make mistakes. :rotf:

It's conceivable that CO Terr, was larger than the curent State of CO. If not, it's still close enough for a MOVIE!

"GILA RIVER: It rises in western New Mexico, in Sierra County on the western slope of continental divide in the Black Range. It flows southwest to the Gila National Forest and Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument, then westward into Arizona, past the city of Safford, and along the southern slope of the Gila Mountains. It emerges from the mountains into the valley southeast of Phoenix, where it crosses the Gila River Indian Reservation as an intermittent stream, due to its use as a water source. West of Phoenix, it turns abruptly southward along the Gila Bend Mountains, then abruptly westward again near the town of Gila Bend, Arizona. It flows southwestward and joins the Colorado near Yuma, Arizona."

The Gila could have been in Colorado Terr., but who cares? It's a movie. It's made to convey feelings and imotions - to present moral and philosphical concepts - to entertain, not be real life.

Watching a movie with some folks would be down right miserable. :shake:

 

[Desert Rat]

First off let me clarify, I love the movie for the sake of the movie and what they were trying to do. I own it on DVD and watch it at least once every couple of months :grin: The secenary is great and overall concept of a guy going out to do what he wants hits home (although the family getting killed is a bummer).

I try not to think about the errors while watching it and just enjoy it.

PS. my wife hates going to historically based movies with me. :blah:

 

[davy]

I am the same way .. I have to fight my own natural borned tendacies to be overly critical of mistakes made in film portrayals! I guess its the "devil in me" tryin ta come out oncet agin! :hatsoff:

Davy

 

[spudnut]

PS. my wife hates going to historically based movies with me. :blah: [/quote]

Mine too what's wif dem wimmins :hmm:

 

[Shifty]

:yakyak: I agree Davy some things are just ment to be enjoyed , I like the movie feel like i'm right there looks familiar to places I used to go when I lived in Colrado. Shifty

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Top 10 Signs you have watched J.J. Too Much:

1: You wonder why anyone would think you could raise crops in the wolftail valley.

2: You wonder how the crazy woman,( and the warrior who avenges her) could already be legends a mere day or 2 after the raid.

3: You wonder why there would be a need for ferry traffic on the Judith River.

4: You notice that fancy Shirt has his bow unstrung and in his plains quiver when Bearclaw hands him his arrow back.

5:You notice that all of the arrows in the film have Fancyshirt's personal cresting.

6: You wonder why Lt. Mulvay does not know what war Johnson is talking about.

7: You wonder why going around the Crow burial ground would require a 20 mile detour to the next pass.

8:You wonder if Hatchet Jack cleaned his rifle before dying.

9:You wonder why this personal war with the Crow is not more unsettling to Johnson than anything he would have seen in the Mexican War.

10: You wonder just how bad those Flathead Cakes are that the Swan keeps making.

Also one of my favorite things about fancyshirt.
He has a over and under or swivle breech rifle.
I have paused the movie several times trying to figure out what it is.

 

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Y'all can get more milage out of one little post. :grin:

I'm not sure if I have ever seen the movie all the way through, but it was on while I was flipping channels last week and this exact scene was on. Coincidence? I don't think so.

 

[sturmkatze]

Ya know, y'all forgot to mention the really, really irritating 1970's hippie music that seemed to spring forth at inopportune times... Ack!! I'd much rather see Charleton Heston and Brian Keith!! Now THAT was a Mountain Man movie!! Waugh! :-Þ

 

[davy]

Thims Blackfeets dammit! :hmm:

Davy

 

[rabbit03]

The rifle looks as though it is a rifle/shotgun combonation. At least that is what it appears to me when you see the muzzle of the gun. One hole definitely looks smaller than the other which is why I believe it was a combination of the two.

rabbit03

 

[PaulN/KS]

One problem with watching movies is you often pick out something that "normal" folk don't.
Was watching a western the other day and spotted what sure as heck looked like a chamber pot on the campfire... :hmm:
"Honey,this stew tastes funny..."