Problems With "New" Pedersoli Shotgun

[Walkabout]

The right hammer only falls to half cock most of the time and neither hammer will set off the caps. Tried loosening the lock plate a little and tightening the brindle screws, which I had previously loosened. Any ideas before I notify the seller? Thanks

 

[2 shots]

main spring clearance ???

 

[Walkabout]

main spring clearance ???

You need to be more specific. Thanks

 

[jrs51861]

Does the right lock function okay when off the stock? If yes, then check for interference between stock & lock.
If no, then check condition of the tumbler-sear notches, sear nose for wear, burrs. Also what condition are the nipples? Those are the easy things to check.

 

[64Springer]

A problem with a new Pedersoli firearm.

Whodathunkit.

Send it back, OP, and demand a full refund. Including shipping.

 

[Walkabout]

It does the same thing off the stock. I contacted the seller, I'm going to send it back if I can. I'm one day past the GB three day return period.

 

[jrs51861]

Hopefully you can return it, probably the best thing since it obviously is needing some attention.

 

[Sam squanch]

The one 20 gauge Pedersoli double I bought had major interference in the inside of the lock mortise. I rubbed magic marker on all the lock parts and carefully shaved away the marked wood.

 

[64Springer]

It does the same thing off the stock. I contacted the seller, I'm going to send it back if I can. I'm one day past the GB three day return period.

Write the single worst feedback you can think of.

Tell the seller the FFFFFFFFF feedback will be removed when you have every single dollar back in your hands.

File a fraud report with Gunbroker. Tell the scumbag seller, who knew of these hammer problems, that you filed a fraud report.

How did you pay? If credit card call the card company and file a claim. If USPS M/O tell the seller you're filing a fraud claim with the USPS.

Gunbroker is no longer what it was when gun sellers cared about their guns and the folks who would buy their guns. Now it's a bunch of filthy shysters looking to pass junk onto some other unsuspecting person.

Good luck and do not take no for an answer.

 

[pacanis]

You didn't say in your OP but,

If you buy a used gun, especially a ML, you take your chances. Maybe don't dawdle on the three day inspection next time (sorry, but you knew that going in). They have to set some kind of parameters.

If it was new I wouldn't be surprised if the seller doesn't refer you to the manufacturer to replace or fix it.

In my experience it helps to be a little mechanically inclined to do anything involving mechanical interacting parts.
No time like the present to learn and understand your gun. Muzzleloaders are really pretty simple. And you'll feel accomplishment for fixing it yourself.

But it does stink.

 

[64Springer]

You didn't say in your OP but,

If you buy a used gun, especially a ML, you take your chances. Maybe don't dawdle on the three day inspection next time (sorry, but you knew that going in). They have to set some kind of parameters.

If it was new I wouldn't be surprised if the seller doesn't refer you to the manufacturer to replace or fix it.

In my experience it helps to be a little mechanically inclined to do anything involving mechanical interacting parts.
No time like the present to learn and understand your gun. Muzzleloaders are really pretty simple. And you'll feel accomplishment for fixing it yourself.

But it does stink.

I couldn't disagree more.

The OP bought a gun and the hammers do not function correctly. On a NEW gun.

Unless this hammers not working correctly issue was listed in the GB description, then the seller is a piece of shyster garbage.

This is not on the seller who now needs to become the world's greatest black powder repair specialist. Nor is it on the manufacturer to fix a problem after the gun has changed hands a few times.

This is on the scumbag that sold the OP a shotgun that is junk. It's called theft. It's called fraud. It's called immoral.

 

[pacanis]

I couldn't disagree more.

The OP bought a gun and the hammers do not function correctly. On a NEW gun.

Unless this hammers not working correctly issue was listed in the GB description, then the seller is a piece of shyster garbage.

This is not on the seller who now needs to become the world's greatest black powder repair specialist. Nor is it on the manufacturer to fix a problem after the gun has changed hands a few times.

This is on the scumbag that sold the OP a shotgun that is junk. It's called theft. It's called fraud. It's called immoral.

This deserves no reply.

Everything deleted.

I've read enough of your negative posts in everyone's threads.

 

[Walkabout]

Just to be clear, the gun was "new" to me, but it's an older gun from 1980. When I checked the bore, it was absolutely pristine. Now I know why, it couldn't be fired. It was probably someone's wall hanger for 40 years.

 

[64Springer]

This deserves no reply.

Everything deleted.

I've read enough of your negative posts in everyone's threads.

A negative post that positively supports the OP 100%.

In what screwed up world do people support GB over a gun owner that was taken advantage of?

And my only negative posts are about Overpriced Pedersolis, Pietta Pistols, CCI Primers, Eroding Gun Rights and Politics.

Outside of that, I believe I've been very helpful when it comes to other forum members and the problems they have with their firearms.

 

[Walkabout]

I probably fall in the middle of the two viewpoints. I might be willing to compromise and accept a partial refund to pay a gunsmith or a willingness from the seller to have it repaired. It's a nice looking gun and it handles beautifully. I'd love to carry it in the woods. Thanks for the input.

 

[SDSmlf]

The right hammer only falls to half cock most of the time and neither hammer will set off the caps. Tried loosening the lock plate a little and tightening the brindle screws, which I had previously loosened. Any ideas before I notify the seller? Thanks

Just to be clear, the gun was "new" to me, but it's an older gun from 1980. When I checked the bore, it was absolutely pristine. Now I know why, it couldn't be fired. It was probably someone's wall hanger for 40 years.

I expect you have a gem of a gun that just needs some TLC to get up and running. I have one proofed in 1978 and love it. One made in 1980 would have been made before Pedersoli started adding unnecessary weight and bulk to their shotguns.

If as you suspect, this gun has sat or hung on a wall for nearly 45 years, any oil or grease in or on the locks has likely turned to tar and potentially a cause of the problems you are experiencing. If you are not up to disassembling and cleaning the locks, I suggest you loosen all the screws a bit and dropping the locks into a covered container of something like Ed’s Red for a few days before hitting them with compressed air. That should dissolve any old grease and oil, and the transmission fluid in the Ed’s will leave some lubricant behind after you dry the locks. Snug up the screws you loosened and see what you have. If your problems seemed solved, it would be time to learn how to properly clean and lube a lock before shooting the gun much. The locks will need more than Ed’s Red for a long term lubricant.

Take your time and good luck with getting your new to you shotgun up to speed.

 

[Walkabout]

I expect you have a gem of a gun that just needs some TLC to get up and running. I have one proofed in 1978 and love it. One made in 1980 would have been made before Pedersoli started adding unnecessary weight and bulk to their shotguns.

If as you suspect, this gun has sat or hung on a wall for nearly 25 years, any oil or grease in or on the locks has likely turned to tar and potentially a cause of the problems you are experiencing. If you are not up to disassembling and cleaning the locks, I suggest you loosen all the screws a bit and dropping the locks into a covered container of something like Ed’s Red for a few days before hitting them with compressed air. That should dissolve any old grease and oil, and the transmission fluid in the Ed’s will leave some lubricant behind after you dry the locks. Snug up the screws you loosened and see what you have. If your problems seemed solved, it would be time to learn how to properly clean and lube a lock before shooting the gun much. The locks will need more than Ed’s Red for a long term lubricant.

Take your time and good luck with getting your new to you shotgun up to speed.

 

[Walkabout]

I could try that, but the locks looked pretty clean when I first removed them. I sprayed them with Ballistol and then swabbed with a Q tip and that did loosen them up a bit. I think the locks mechanics are just faulty. Thanks

 

[SDSmlf]

I could try that, but the locks looked pretty clean when I first removed them. I sprayed them with Ballistol and then swabbed with a Q tip and that did loosen them up a bit. I think the locks mechanics are just faulty. Thanks

45 year old grease and oil will not be a very good lubricant. More like Bondo. Ballistol will not cut it.

Curious, what do you think is faulty with the locks’ mechanics?

 

[Walkabout]

Another thing I noticed is that in order to remove the right lock, I need to remove the tang. I don't need to do that to remove the left lock. Is that normal?