PUTTING HOGS DOWN

[sduve]

How about loading 2 balls??

 

[paulvallandigham]

I don't see any real advantage. The problem is not penetrating, but delivering enough shock to the boar to stop him. In the heavy gauge guns, like my 20 gauge fowler, two balls would be a little much to handle. I would not want to shoot a 12 gauge loaded with two balls in each barrel. I am not sure the flash channel and nipple would withstand the pressure for very long.

Understand, we are not saying you can't kill wild board with round ball; we are saying they leave something to be desire if your intent is to stop them. ( knock them down with one shot!) Boar have been killed with round ball for almost 500 years. The men holding the pikes were there to keep the boars from attacking the hunter if they charged at them when the guns were empty.

 

[PreglerD]

Now reading all this you all can imagine how difficult hunting on wild boars is. Here in GE in most parts of the country the boars are a real pest. They come along most in the night time to desert the farmers corn and potatoe fields. The number of those hogs has grown up in the last 10 years at about 500 %. Today they live in areas where never a hog was seen before. When you have hogs in your hunting ground there is no more time for hunting on other deer like roes or red deer.
So the boars are very tough, even when hit with modern calibres. In GE hunters use slugs or rifle bullets starting from 8mm (famous 8x57 Mauser, .300 Win Mag and others). But nearly no hog is killed in the tracks. Best way to get them is a big drive hunt through the thickings or hunting at corn baits out of a blind in the evening and night.
So if you want to know more please ask. Think this is a theme where GE-hunters could help you.

 

[faw3]

hit a swinging ball ? I couldnt hit one standing still 2 feet away, bow's are something that never liked me. Ive seen guys useing "mini 14's in ?223" and puttin 4 to 6 shoots in one before it will lay down and shut up. Im starting to think its luck with a perfect hit, seems like you could blow the heart out of one of these and youd get chased :rotf: Fred :hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

Didnt you use a horse and lance at one time? (2 or 300 yrs ago) Id rhink one of your old 80 cal Jaeger's would send one to hel..... fast. Ive got a lot onhere and PM's so I have a good idea what to NOT aim for. Havent got to try the Foster 300+ gr 62's yet maybe in the mornning. As far as a few, I belive last yr the next county had about 30,000 and put a good bounty up on them. (no telling how many of those hogs went moooooo when shot. :youcrazy: :rotf: ) FRED :hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

The men holding the pikes were there to keep the boars from attacking the hunter if they charged at them when the guns were empty AND THATS NO JOKE!! FRED :hatsoff:

 

[faw3]

Just a "Q" to really mess this all up... how many kinds are running around, Ive seen 3 different that I know of, the bigdark hair one is the one I haveing trouble with, the one's that look like over grown hogs on the farm will go down with 1 or 2 shots they are not near the same. (except in size) Fred :hatsoff:

 

[hawkeye1755]

Didnt you use a horse and lance at one time? (2 or 300 yrs ago) Id rhink one of your old 80 cal Jaeger's would send one to hel..... fast.

I like to see that.Hunting this kind of boar in a cornfield only with a boar spear. :shocked2:

Waidmanns Heil
:hatsoff:

 

[Blizzard of '93]

If memory serves I read that Hermann Goering was the last man in GE to take boar with a spear, I know he was a morphine addict, but still he must of had brass co`jones, if not case-hardened! Evidently that was his specialty, he gave up hunting with firearms to take boar with a spear.
Still though, I cannot believe that an 8mm would not crack a boars skull, I did it on a small one with a '58 Rem using a slug and max charge of powder.
Boar have become a pest here in some areas of the SouthEast USA, and some huge ones have been killed. One was called "HOGZILLA", taken down in Georgia in farm country that was near 2000 lbs. And another taken in South Carolina near as big, an older Black farmer had it on his farm and could not get anyone to go after it, so he borrowed a 30-30 and shot it himself, took 10 shots to put it down for good. He shot it from the safety of his pick-up truck. Fotos of both these boars were posted on the internet. I know a fellow from here that knows the Black farmer in South Carolina, the farmer is always trying to get hunters to come and hunt those boars, they do a lot of damage to his crops. I got both of mine in Nature Conservancy land, they were tearing the place up and raiding an adjacent farm that was a cabbage patch and apple orchard. Both of them were very good eating. Much more tasty than store bought pork, but the biggest one was not quite as tender. Most of the ol'boys around here use 30-30 or 12 and 20 ga. shotguns for them. But me and my buddy use BP guns.

 

[hawkeye1755]

Hogzilla is the name given to a wild hog that was shot and killed in Alapaha, Georgia, United States, on 17 June 2004 by Chris Griffin on Ken Holyoak's farm and hunting reserve. It was alleged to be 12 feet (3.6 meters) long and to weigh 1,000 pounds (455 kg).Its remains were exhumed in early 2005 and studied by scientists from the National Geographic for a documentary. In March 2005, these scientists confirmed that Hogzilla actually weighed 800 pounds (360 kg) and was between 7.5 and 8 feet (2.25 and 2.4 meters) long, diminishing the validity of the previous claim. Hogzilla was part domestic (Hampshire breed) and part wild boar. However, compared to most wild boars and domestics, Hogzilla is still quite a large and incredible specimen.According to the examiners, Hogzilla's tusks measured nearly 23 cm (9 inches), and nearly 41 cm (16 inches), which was a new record for North America.

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[FishDFly]

I shoot a lot of hogs with a varietly of center fires and about 20% of them will run when hit, even with the larger calibers.

There is a large gristle plate that is behind a hog's shoulders and it is difficult to penetrate with smaller calibers. What I have learned is to shoot them going away on a quartering shot where you can slip the bullet behind the gristle plate and into the chest cavity. This pretty well stops the running problem.

Hogs have more tenacity for living than deer do.
The ones that I have shot with a muzzle loader (54) did not run, but they were shot close and on a quartering shot going away.

Another difference that I have noticed is that deer will stand around looking and eating giving more time for aiming and shooting. It seems hogs are constantly moving about as they eat and go about their day, which causes a bit more rush in shooting at them.

RDE

 

[oneshot]

That's why they call them Great Plains Grizzly.

Nugent just had a show where he put an arrow clear through a big boar and it ran off spraying blood. 45 minutes later, Nugent found it in a thicket. The hog started growling and got up and began pacing and Nugent put a second and then a third arrow through the hog before it charged, and he killed it with a pistol a few yards in front of him. They are tough.

Nugent was hunting Russians which are a whole different critter from Feral Hogs.Them dang things will hunt you :shocked2: Some ways kind of neat.But thjey sure are fun.

fw your Daddy was with my Great Uncle Gen. Chennault. :thumbsup:

oneshot

 

[Blizzard of '93]

You are correct, I checked the web and found info on 'HOGZILLA", it was 1000 lbs, not 2000. There have been 2 more monster hogs killed, both on the web. One in S.C. (this is the one I mentioned, about 800 lbs. and another in Fla. - about 1100 lbs. Evidently crossbred wild and domestic hogs that had been feeding near or on farms and using cattle feeding stations and salt licks. The large sow that I shot and killed was black, had very coarse bristles on it's back/shoulder area and when we skinned it I was amazed at the thickness and toughness of this so-called 'gristle plate' on the upper shoulders and neck area. I'm guessing a .357 mag would not penetrate that area.

 

[PreglerD]

The spear that Hermann göring was used to use for hunting was a "Saufeder". This instrument belongs to the time when hogs were chased by dogs and then after the dogs had caught them and they couldn't run away anymore the hogs were killed by the spear. You need many expirience to manage a clean kill with the spear. problem is when hiting it in the boars body it will come up again and be very wild. So a gun will be more animalfriendly.

 

[faw3]

It was before my time, by a few years 6 I guess, but I belive dad worked with Chennault a few times the 30 yrs he was in , Army Air Corps,Air Force, I did get to talk with (cant spell it) the prez of Free China on Tiwian(?sp) back in the 60s. we have a few pics of dad and his P40 teeth and all "miss squirm". Really off subject. Fred :hatsoff:

 

[Slamfire]

I know a texan who uses a rope for hog huntin' says it makes it harder to push 'em off. :bow: Actually several husky boys tackle the hog and then they hog tie it. :blah: