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WRussell

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Has anyone come up with a source of good pyrites for wheellocks?

Has anyone tried misch metal? That's the stuff they use for cigarette lighter "flints". It should be terrific for making sparks, and it should hold up as well as it does in a cigarette lighter. I've heard some folks face their flintlock frizzens with it.
 
WRussell:

Has anyone come up with a source of good pyrites for wheellocks?

Has anyone tried misch metal? That's the stuff they use for cigarette lighter "flints". It should be terrific for making sparks, and it should hold up as well as it does in a cigarette lighter. I've heard some folks face their flintlock frizzens with it.

I've tried it and it is good for the first shot and that is it. It seems that the heat from the ignition messes up the rock. I've had better luck with the real stuff.

That being said, there was a fellow by the name of Vern earlier this year who said that he was going to get some pyrite for a few of us that was in a limestone matrix. But then he disappeared from the forums after mid-April.

The pyrite I bought from Peter Dyson & Son is very good rock. Lucky for me, I was able to get the stuff before the dollar took a nosedive.
 
I have a piece of Misch coming, and I have the castings for the lock, so I'll be giving it a try. Thanks for the info.

When did you get the pyrite from Dyson? I queried him on it a year or so ago and was told he couldn't supply it.

I've been hoping to hear more from Vern too. I've put a bug in the ear of John Horst at http://www.horstguns.com/ (he is supplying French flint). Sent him Vern's clues about the source. Maybe John can find the stuff and market it.
 
Another thought - Misch metal is very sensitive to moisture. Could the water collected by the black powder fouling be an issue here?
---from the web---
Praseodymium, which is named from the Greek prasios + didymos (green twin), was isolated and identified by von Welsbach in 1885 from what was known at the time as didymium. von Welsbach's work revealed that this "substance" actually contained two new elements, one of which was praseodymium (neodymium was the other).

Pure praseodymium is silvery-white and fairly soft. It oxidizes slowly in air and reacts vigorously with water to release hydrogen gas. It is used as an alloying agent along with magnesium for parts in aircraft engines. Misch metal is 5% praseodymium and is used for alloying steel and in flints used to create sparks in lighters. The glass in welder's goggles contains a mixture of praseodymium and neodymium.

Discovered in 1885 along with praseodymium, neodymium is named from the Greek neos + didymos (new twin). The silvery-white metal oxidizes easily in air and reacts with water, displacing hydrogen gas. Although another of the "rare" earth metals, neodymium is actually more abundant than many better known metals such as gold, silver, tin and lead.

Misch metal, used in lighter flints, is about 18% neodymium. The element is also used in the manufacture of artificial rubies for laser applications.
 
When did you get the pyrite from Dyson? I queried him on it a year or so ago and was told he couldn't supply it.

I've been hoping to hear more from Vern too. I've put a bug in the ear of John Horst at http://www.horstguns.com/ (he is supplying French flint). Sent him Vern's clues about the source. Maybe John can find the stuff and market it.

I got the pyrite in 2003. It would be a real shame if you can't get it anymore from Dyson. :( That makes what pyrite I do have even more precious.

Please let me know if you get any word about a new source of gun grade pyrite!
 
Just got an email from Dyson's. They quote that their pyrites are 2 pounds each, plus Royal Mail charges. Seems kinda steep, but if you must have good pyrite, I guess the cost is irrelevant. Cheers, Bookie
 
Thanks! I'll give 'em a holler. Maybe I misunderstood before, or they were just out of stock.

:RO:
 
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