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rawhide

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ok all heres one I havn't herd of guys doing. well today I got a club shoot to go to. and it's porning down rain. :cursing: I was thinking of taking my blueridge .54 so my quetion is how do you keep the gun dry so it will go off? and how did they do it back in the old days?
 
I have shot my TC Hawken in pretty wet conditions but not actual “pouring rain”.
I have a 'cow's knee' and a 'frizzen stall' that I use all the time. Rain or not.
My gun has shot just fine when droplets were forming on the metal surfaces of the gun from the mist.
I don't consider that pleasant shooting weather so I don't do it very often. The only secret is “keep your powder dry!”
 
I water proof as good as I can by sealing my pan with bees wax melted and droped down around the pan then I use a cow knee over my lock a tapon with patch attached to it to seal the barrel but for God sake rember to remove the tampon befor shooting
 
What I do at rainy day club shoots is I carry my flinter with muzzle down and the lock tucked in the arm pit area.

When loading I take a couple of cleaing patches and put them under the flint with the hammer down and the frizzen open. This helps to keep the pan dry.

Then I load the main charge.
When I prime the pan I use the cleaning patches to wipe the pan, rock, and frizzen.
When it's raining I use 3f from my main horn to prime the pan. When primeing the pan I cradle the gun in my left arm holding it close to my body and useing the brim of my hat to keep the rain out.

Fire your shot. Put the dry cleaning patches back under the rock. Repeat as needed.

Don't know if this is how the ol'timers did it, but this works for me! Have no problems keeping my flinter shooting in the rain.

Good luck at your club shoot.
Tradegunner
 
Carrying is not the big problem for me- that's what cows knees and precautions are for.

Reloading is where things get wet unless you're real careful. I like Tradegunner's idea with the cleaning patches, and I'll give that a try. But I'll continue to reload in any cover I can find, even if that's my hunched over body.
 
Unless you are shooting where there is good cover( like a hood over a firing line at the club) Wear a good leather, broad brimmed HAT so that you can cover the lock and pan while priming it. Carry DRY towels, rags, or paper towels in a DRY POCKET or pouch, to use to dry the frizzen and pan, as well as the jaws, and flint, but top and bottom for each reload. Moisture will condense on the underside of your flint and jaws, splashing forward onto the frizzen just as sparks are created. The water can( and often does) snuff out the sparks before they can reach your flash pan!( Please don't ask me HOW I KNOW this. Thank you. :grin: )

Treat that leather hat( or any felt hat) with one of the synthetic water repelling sprays before going out. Leather will eventually soak through, and then it offers very little protection for your lock while priming. [It doesn't offer much protection for your face and eyes, either! :shocked2: :rotf: ] :hmm: :thumbsup:
 
a cow knee? whats that? why not a bull? :haha: well any way what is it and how does it work? some pics please. I ben shooting the cap locks for years now still learning the flinters.
 
Nothing works 100%, lots of old dated novels (Dumas, James Fenemore Cooper, Verne, etc) had the protagonist constantly making "look to your priming" type of statements to their sidekick.

The sock/hock, from the cow "knee" works best. On subsequent shots, there is no residual beeswax to shim the frizzen partially open, nor to get accidentally jammed into the touch-hole with the pick. I've had both things happen. Although I was a novice at the time :wink: .
I'm just sayin' what worked more reliably 'for me', others probably have had other experiences pro & con.
 
If you want a nice mess just start putting “stuff” around the pan on your flintlock. It ain't necessary.
 
rawhide said:
a cow knee? whats that? why not a bull? :haha: well any way what is it and how does it work? some pics please. I ben shooting the cap locks for years now still learning the flinters.

Cow's knee
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Heavily waxed leather lock cover. I sewed in a hump as it's passing difficult to find a tanned knee. :wink:

Named for the shape ('cause no one takes the time to look at a bull's knee. But then, we have "cowboys" and no "bullboys" :hmm: ).
 
I kep the barrel pointed down with nothing in or over it, the lock is tucked under my coat/cape in bad rain I use a cows knee as well, when the time comes get on target and shoot fast, then find a dry spot to reload,no hurry to chase the Deer if it did not drop anyway. as BrownBear says,reloading is the tricky part in some areas, the Oregon Coastal Mts. can be a hard place to reload when the rain is going 40 MPH sideways in Nov. if not in the big timber, get close,make the first shot count, practice some trail walk shooting in the rain earlier in the year and you will learn a great deal in a short time.
 
-----"YES" but how do you keep it dry if'n you trip while crossing a stream----- :idunno:
 
You don't. You need to take great precautions crossing any stream, river, ditch, or creek when carrying a loaded gun. If you have a partner, let him cross first, and then hand the guns to him one at a time.

If you are alone, then un-prime the gun( take the priming powder out of a flintlock) and put a toothpick or other plug in the vent hole. Then put some kind of condom, or wrap over the muzzle of the gun. I have a tampion made of wood that fits the muzzle of my fowler, for instance. That, and a rubber band, or properly sized O-ring, to provide a tight seal will keep water out of the barrel if the gun is dunked.

If I had to cross a stream alone, I would be using a walking stick- even if I have to cut a tree down on site to make it--- to help me steady myself when crossing. The gun would be slung over my shoulder using a "hasty sling" I carry in my daypack. Keep your knees unlocked and legs bent, so that your weight remains on the rear foot while you find a flat, sturdy, flat place to place the front foot in the streambed. Only after shifting the walking stick forward, do you shift your weight from the rear foot to the front foot. But keep your knees unlocked all the time, so that your weight remains NOW on the forward foot while you bring the rear foot forward, to find a flat, sturdy place in the streambed to place that foot.
 
Then put some kind of condom, or wrap over the muzzle of the gun.
They used to sell a condom specifically for this purpose, don't know if they are still marketed or not. The finger cots sold at drug stores are the same thing, just a different color. They are a great waterproofing item for the muzzle. You can shoot right through them, don't have to worry about removing it before firing. I guess to be PC you could use Lamb intestine :haha:
 
I sometimes use a piece of adhesive tape over the muzzle if it is raining here. You can shoot without removing it. The lock gets protected by a cow's knee and the tail of my coat covers that as much as possible. I refresh the powder in my pan every 15 minutes (may be overkill, but I bought 5 pounds of FFFFg powder 10 years ago and am still working on the first pound :redface: ) and have never had it fail to fire in wet weather.
 
rawhide said:
ok all heres one I havn't herd of guys doing. well today I got a club shoot to go to. and it's porning down rain. :cursing: I was thinking of taking my blueridge .54 so my quetion is how do you keep the gun dry so it will go off? and how did they do it back in the old days?

Lots of times they didn't just like now.
Gotta have a full length cover apparently this is even HC.

Leather treated with Sno-Seal is best.

Dan
 
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