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With all the "muzzleloader" hunters out there. Even if most do use the new fangled in-line do-hickys. I just didn't expect the reaction to my taking a flintlock on my elk hunt.

Mostly I get somewhere between :shocked2: & :slap: and ALWAYS followed by :nono: :yakyak:

What other rifle are you bringing?

none

Oh come on!?

No, really, I'm hunting with my flintlock

But what if you get a chance at a Trophy!!

Then I'll try to take it with my flintlock

***About this time they start to stutter like Bill Tyler (Charlton Heston) in reaction to immigrants.

Flintlock!! you can't hunt elk with a Flintlock!! :rotf:

I have walked my hunting partner through this 4-5 times and I have hunted with him twice when I carried a percussion .50 cal. .....but I would bet money when he shows up his 300 Weatherby will "just happen" to be under the seat in his truck in case I come to my senses. :haha:
 
Never killed one with a rocklock but 80% of my elk were taken with a caplock. No reason at all to think it would matter to the elk what set of the powder :hmm:
 
Good for you. Be patient with the non-believers. I saw your target for the partner shoot, you will be just fine using the flintlock. :thumbsup:
 
Most of the time when I heard that sort of comment (and I did when I took a flintlock only on a caribou hunt and a couple moose hunts) it came from someone who has no idea of what a flinter does. They compare it to using a slingshot or boomerang! If they have any BP experience at all, it's generally with one of those "unmentionables."

BEST WAY TO FIX THEM IS TO SHOW THEM IT'S SUCCESSES!!!
 
About 30 years ago I refinished a stock for a colleague at work who had gotten the flint rifle from his brother who had just gone into the military, so it was on its' way to becoming a family heirloom. Forget if it was a Cabela's or TC or what, since they all looked the same to me back then & it was just one of many flintlocks I fired, but didn't own. Anyway, I finished assembling it just in time to go camping, where we'd meet & I'd give it back to him. Last minute he couldn't make it, but told me to take it out and shoot it. He dropped off balls, patches and a can of powder at my desk.

The camping group had a mix of folks, ranging from several who had hunted with Dad when a kid, to some of the wimmens who had preferences towards tofu, Birkenstocks and treehugging. One of the guys brought a revolver, and .22 rifle along, and met with little success in getting up more than 2 of the guys to go shoot.

Later I broke out the flintlock, and after the 2nd shot, the line formed of those who wanted to shoot it. Even Tofu Girl, Birkenstock lady, and Treehugger Woman wanted in on a try. It got to the point where they were grabbing all the empty cans, plastic bottles and trash containers to fill with water for a chance to "blow it up with a roundball". Once a vegan tastes the blood of firing a flintlock, you play heck trying to pry it out of her hands. They soon all knew how to safely load and prime. The full pound of black powder was nearly empty, and it was getting dark.

Next morning at sun-up one of the gals snuck into my tent - to snuggle and maybe MORE?? Definitely just a fantasy - she wanted to go out & shoot the flintlock, and get in a few shots before we ran out of powder. My only mistake is that I didn't share the secret of cleaning up the rifle later.

Sadly, the group disbanded with some going on to other jobs in other parts of the country. I ended up in Germany a while later, so black powder rifles went on hold. It took marriage, building a house, and eventual death of my wife before I got back into serious black powder burning, although the Gallagher breechloader was always close at hand.

Today, the occasional "Remchester" hunter points and laughs while I seat a ball, and comments about an anachronistic relic. Very few shooters who come to the range for fall sight in days seem to actually have hunted (successfully) before - judging by the fact that their hunting rifles always need to be sighted in. This gives me an edge when challenging them to a "Bust the Grapefruit at 100 yards". They can shoot all they want, and manage to get off a couple of rounds while I'm loading. By the time they burn up a box of fancy ammo, my first roundball ends the contest by exploding the grapefruit (or water balloon).

Never underestimate the superiority of a non-ballistically shaped roundball with open sights when up against a modern rifle with a fancy scope. The losers (sometimes me) usually take it well. And for the poor sports, the offer to fire my rifle is never refused. A couple of the guys actually wanted to buy my rifle on the spot (lefthanded .54 cal Deerstalker) tempting, but they're not in the Lyman catalog anymore, so I can't give it up. This summer I saw a guy shooting a 'pretty' new .50 cal. capgun with the brass fittings and buttplate. He said that his Dad bought it, and can hit anything he can see with it. He said something about some guy with an old flintlock beat his bolt action hunting rifle last year, and he was putting in for muzzleloader season. I told him that it was either me, or one of the other guys. I let him shoot the flintlock that beat his Dad, and he let me shoot the .50 cal that was truly more accurate and easier to shoot than any of my .50's. He was going back to Ohio, Illinois or some other gawdawful place and his biggest regret was that he had to give the .50 cal back to his Dad.
 
Well, Sean, a somewhat sad addendum to your post is that some of the dedicated shooters that I rub shoulders wit throughout the year at many RB only shoots look at me funny when told that I hunt with RB! Many of them are adamant about hunting with a conical and some with i*-l***s!

Don't matter to me what anybody's preference is, but it's always surprising when the think they need the slug!
 
Yesterday, being it was actually 40+ degrees out, I decided to head to the shooting range to further work on load development with my "new-to-me" .54 Virginia . Link to Photos of my Rifle

When I arrived only a father and his two younger boys were there...I'd say they were age 12 and 6.
While the 12 yr old was working on shooting his new shotgun, the 6 yr old took a fancy to my flintlock. He thought it was pretty cool.

Then three truckloads of the "shoot 50 rounds a minute" crowd showed up and I could hear them chuckling behind me. They asked if I could even hit the 50 yard target with that thing and I offered them my field glasses to look at the 7-shot "hole" with two others forming another hole about an inch away in the black just under the bull. That answered that question for them!

Then one of them asked if I was getting ready for the late muzzleloader season. I told him I already had my deer and was just working up a load for this new gun. He was surprised and asked me what other weapon I carried to finish off the deer after I hit it with a roundball...a pistol??? A knife??? He was dead serious.

I explained that I had killed a lot of deer with a PRB and that on average they only traveled 30-50 yards and were quite dead in seconds with no followup needed.

I don't know if he believed me or not, but it does show how totally ignorant and brainwashed people are regarding traditional equipment.

While I wasn't really done with my range session yet, when they broke out their black guns and started shooting pumpkins (against range rules) and showering me with flying cartridge casings I packed up and left. :surrender: I would certainly pay more if there were a monitored range somewhere near. This is a DNR/Local gun club range with zero monitoring and I don't argue with these idiots. I'd venture to say most don't even pay the membership. I rarely go there on a weekend which is usually a disaster of one group of idiots after the other. :shake: :idunno:
 
Here Spikebuck, you can borrow my sign to take to the range with you next time.





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Come on now Sean...

You KNOW that an Elk was never hunted until after the 300 Wby hit the market.

Seriously, an Elk with a flintlock.

Next you are going to try and tell me that some guy hunts Deer with a bow and arrow :haha:
 
Unfortunately, black gun idiots are widespread.

Notice the small hole in front of the birds head and the one above tail.

This was placed in my target by someone with his black gun. He was shooting two benches away from me ! :shocked2:



The little holes are from another idiot who was doing his best to demolish the target frame next to my lane with his automatic shotgun. Shotguns are banned from the rifle range now because of people like him.
 
Zonie said:
Unfortunately, black gun idiots are widespread.

Notice the small hole in front of the birds head and the one above tail.

This was placed in my target by someone with his black gun. He was shooting two benches away from me ! :shocked2:



The little holes are from another idiot who was doing his best to demolish the target frame next to my lane with his automatic shotgun. Shotguns are banned from the rifle range now because of people like him.

Where do you shoot?
 
My deer hunting buddies are in line guys..and just shake their head at me and my flinter. In the section of land we hunt,after the muzzleloader season is over,it changes to rifle. So If no one has bagged a deer during muzzleloader season,they grab their rifles . Not me....Iam getting one with the rock lock or going home empty.
 
Would love to see pics of the Elk. Would also love to see pics of the sheeple with their jaws stuck to their belt buckles when they see your Elk!
 
Great post. I am very familiar with others expressing disbelief that someone would "handicap" themselves with less than a modern scoped long gun when hunting. During modern gun season for whitetails here I have used a 6" .44 Magnum revolver with iron sights exclusively for 25 years. I've never killed a deer with anything but an arrow or a revolver bullet that I cast and handloaded myself. Several dozen deer have fallen to my wheelgun including a few nice bucks, but I always hear from people who ask "what if you see that buck of a lifetime out of range, and you could have killed him with a scoped long gun?" They just don't get it! You can see how when I got bitten by the blackpowder bug I gravitated to flintlocks. My biggest desire now is to shoot my next deer with a roundball from a smoothbore, and even to take gamebirds on the wing with one of my flinters! There's something special about doing it on your own terms and not taking the easiest path. Most folks will never understand that.
 
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