"REAL" Black powder?

[playfarmers]

I have used Pyrodex Rs in my cap locks with good results, until the temp drops below -20. That is when the real black powder shines. I tried 777 and found it was a brute to clean the crud ring out. I ended up giving 3/4 of a can to a friend, and am now switching over to Graff FFF in both of our caplocks. I find the clean up for real black is far quicker, than with any of the subs I have tried.

 

[renovato]

I remember when Pyrodex first hit the market. I figured it had to be "better" than black powder, being new and improved and all that. I shot it exclusively for several years, then came to the realization that black powder is superior in a number of ways. It's more powerful, more accurate, fouls less, is less corrosive and it lights easier, reducing hangfires. I'll never for the life of me, understand how Pyrodex has managed to stay around so long.

 

[roundball]

"...I'll never for the life of me, understand how Pyrodex has managed to stay around so long..."

I think it's because of newbies...I...like you...started out with Pyrodex 'cause it was all I knew about...and frankly, it served me very well in terms of getting done what I wanted to do...plink and deer hunt...but then we found out about Goex, made the switch and we never go back to a sub

 

[TN.Frank]

It's mostly because Walmart can sell Pyrodex without any "special" lic. or storage. It's a "Flamable solid" where as the real deal Black powder is classified as an "explosive" so you've got to have a safe to store it in, ect. I think this is why there's such an influx of, dare I say the word, inlines, into muzzleloading. That's all the customer is offered at the local retail store so that's all he can choose from. If Walmart, et al, would offer flintlocks and more sidelocks I'd bet that more people would buy em' but you can't buy what they don't sell. :hmm:

 

[Frank Briggs]

That kind of poses an interesting question, doesn't it?

Would throwing a one pound can of pyrodex into a campfire cause less of a response than a one pound can of Goex?

Is it really "Safer"?

 

[shmrck1]

I'd predict that if you ever shot a can of Goex, you'd never bother with substitute powders again

I agree.... :thumbsup: :hatsoff:
snake-eyes

 

[roundball]

That kind of poses an interesting question, doesn't it?

Would throwing a one pound can of pyrodex into a campfire cause less of a response than a one pound can of Goex?

Is it really "Safer"?

Throwing them into a fire is different from asking it it's safer...the BP subs are "safer" with regard to their higher ignition point...requiring a much higher temperature ignition source to ignite them than real BP does...which is why they're classified as they are and can sit out in the open on Walmart store shelves...and is the same reason there's such an endless series of experimentations with hotter and hotter ignition design changes in rifles that are intended to use the BP subs, to try and get the stuff to go off reliably, etc

 

[Snuffy]

That kind of poses an interesting question, doesn't it?

Would throwing a one pound can of pyrodex into a campfire cause less of a response than a one pound can of Goex?

Is it really "Safer"?

Never took a match to either one -- but I think just the blackpowder is rated as an explosive.

 

[Old Ironsights]

I'd predict that if you ever shot a can of Goex, you'd never bother with substitute powders again

I agree.... :thumbsup: :hatsoff:
snake-eyes

Now what would be more interesting...

Shoot a can of Goex and a can of Sub... with tracers. :shocked2: :youcrazy: :grin:

Should be telling. :rotf:

 

[Jon in MI]

I found a friend in Schuetzen FFF. Seems to have softer fouling than Goex. I never could get Swiss FFF to work. Perhaps I should of purchased the FF instead.

Maybe I'll try that one next trip there to Kenochee Trading Post! :hmm: :hmm:

I use 1.5F in my .54 Late Lancaster.

Jon

 

[renovato]

Back in the '80's, when I was younger and more foolish, I shot a can of Goex with .223 tracers. It didn't go off. It just scattered powder all over the place. Shot the can several times.

 

[Landngroove]

I agree with all of the "good ink" that the other posters have to say about real black powder. I would like to add that black powder has been around for hundreds of years, and is still going strong. I have yet to see a better substitute. :grin: