Repro long land bess?

[FlinterNick]

"First Model Brown Bess Musket, Officially the Pattern 1756 Long Land Musket (AL5185)" for sale.

Looks like a coach harness repro being sold by as an original? The lock is acknowledged as a replacement…. I the rest of the gun is too

 

[Artificer]

"First Model Brown Bess Musket, Officially the Pattern 1756 Long Land Musket (AL5185)" for sale.

Looks like a coach harness repro being sold by as an original? The lock is acknowledged as a replacement…. I the rest of the gun is too

Is the mark a little forward of the tang the one used by Coach Harness? It isn't a British Ordnance mark.


Gus

 

[FlinterNick]

Is the mark a little forward of the tang the one used by Coach Harness? It isn't a British Ordnance mark.


Gus

i cant tell from the picture, but i know the sling swivel was incorrectly located on many of these.

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
There is a lot odd about this one. The trigger guard has a skinny boss for the swivel and no tick marks on the hazel nut finial. The side plate side panel is shaped the way many civilian fowlers were done without any step behind the forward nose of the panel. The lock obviously does not fit the mortise begging the question, what was the shape and size of the original lock plate. It is either a repro, a fake, or maybe some sort of period commercial musket.

dave

 

[FlinterNick]

Hi,
There is a lot odd about this one. The trigger guard has a skinny boss for the swivel and no tick marks on the hazel nut finial. The side plate side panel is shaped the way many civilian fowlers were done without any step behind the forward nose of the panel. The lock obviously does not fit the mortise begging the question, what was the shape and size of the original lock plate. It is either a repro, a fake, or maybe some sort of period commercial musket.

dave

Yea, I see what you’re talking about on the trigger guard with the small tick marks. This is certainly a repro Bering sold off as an refurbished original. This is the second one I’ve seen passed off in auction as an original, one on Gunbroker a few weeks ago sold for nearly 4k as an original but was clearly a rifle shoppe musket.

 

[springfield art]

Hi,
There is a lot odd about this one. The trigger guard has a skinny boss for the swivel and no tick marks on the hazel nut finial. The side plate side panel is shaped the way many civilian fowlers were done without any step behind the forward nose of the panel. The lock obviously does not fit the mortise begging the question, what was the shape and size of the original lock plate. It is either a repro, a fake, or maybe some sort of period commercial musket.

dave

There's always a number of suspicious items for sale in any antique, collectible field. Buyer Beware!