My name is Steve. I am from Rockford Illinois. I inherited a Pennsylvania Long Rifle from my grandfather. I’m trying to find out the maker of this old gun... My four times great grandfather, Valentine Fink, served in the Revolutionary War. He was a member of the Pennsylvania Militia and was from Berks County and Huntingdon County. I’m thinking that this rifle is the one Valentine used in the war. Finding out the maker and time period would be helpful. I have seven photos of the rifle.
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So the bad news is that isn't a Rev War rifle. The lock fits the stock well and is not a conversion from flintlock to caplock, so that's the original lock. Caplock were post 1800. That looks more to be a rifle from The Golden Age of longrifles or later. We will need to see more photos, and this was moved to Firearm Identification to help you out.
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Yep, 1840s plus or minus.
Yep. Definitely NOT Revolution era. All the guns of that time were flintlocks. Your rifle is caplock (percussion) that didn't appear until the 1830's, and didn't become common until the 1840's.
I see a name, or something engraved on the lock plate, but I cannot make it out. We need good photos of all markings that you can find on the gun. Plus, an overall photo of the entire rifle in order to see the style. Then, maybe, someone here can tell you more about it.
There is a group of muzzleloaders there in Rockford. They have a clubhouse and range south of the town. I'm not sure what they call themselves, maybe the Rockford Longrifles. Paul Swanson is a member there and he is also a very good builder of muzzleloaders and quite knowledgeable. Although I believe he is semi-retired from gun making now. Maybe you could look them up. Pecatonica River Longrifle Supply is located there also, and I know that they know Paul.
I see a name, or something engraved on the lock plate, but I cannot make it out. We need good photos of all markings that you can find on the gun. Plus, an overall photo of the entire rifle in order to see the style. Then, maybe, someone here can tell you more about it.
There is a group of muzzleloaders there in Rockford. They have a clubhouse and range south of the town. I'm not sure what they call themselves, maybe the Rockford Longrifles. Paul Swanson is a member there and he is also a very good builder of muzzleloaders and quite knowledgeable. Although I believe he is semi-retired from gun making now. Maybe you could look them up. Pecatonica River Longrifle Supply is located there also, and I know that they know Paul.
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Hi,
It is a Henry Leman lock made in Lancaster, PA. Zoom in and you can see the name very well. The style suggests it was made in the 1850s.
dave
It is a Henry Leman lock made in Lancaster, PA. Zoom in and you can see the name very well. The style suggests it was made in the 1850s.
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Thanks for the info. In looking at photos from the internet of a few rifles that look like my gun, I was suspecting that my gun was made in the early 1800”s. Any ideas on the gunsmith?
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Like many flinters, it was converted to the new- fangeled percussion system. Kinda don't think this was used in the Rev War, but will be nice when you ID it.
A photo of the entire rifle would be helpful.
it’s a nicely maintained percussion rifle. It should be pretty easy to find out the region it was made and work on dating it from there.
it’s a nicely maintained percussion rifle. It should be pretty easy to find out the region it was made and work on dating it from there.
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Hi Guys,
Do any of you read other people's posts? It is a Henry Leman! It is written on the lock for crying out loud. The lock style: 1850s. There is absolutely nothing about this gun that says 18th century or even early 19th. It is a nice Leman rifle.
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Do any of you read other people's posts? It is a Henry Leman! It is written on the lock for crying out loud. The lock style: 1850s. There is absolutely nothing about this gun that says 18th century or even early 19th. It is a nice Leman rifle.
dave
listen to Dave. that lock was never converted or changed from a flintlock.
Welcome from New York State's Central-Leatherstocking region.
I agree that is very post-Revolutionary War era firearm. Family history had my Grandfather fighting in WWI with a Krag. But I'm 99% sure that was a rifle he bought through DCM in the 1920's (for $3.00). Such is the nature of family history.
I agree that is very post-Revolutionary War era firearm. Family history had my Grandfather fighting in WWI with a Krag. But I'm 99% sure that was a rifle he bought through DCM in the 1920's (for $3.00). Such is the nature of family history.
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Yes. Our old 45-70 trapdoor was used by some ancestor at bull run………
H. Leman was a gunsmith in Lancaster 1837 to 1887
https://collections.lancasterhistory.org/media/library/docs/edit_vol40pp37_49.pdf
https://collections.lancasterhistory.org/media/library/docs/edit_vol40pp37_49.pdf
Steve,
Congratulations on a great family hierloom.
A word of warning: Aside from light dusting or qualified professional attention don't DO anything to it! Much of its value lies in its grime and wear and any incorrect cleaning or polishing might harm its value and historical interest.
Also don't forget to check to see if its loaded!
Others have already given you your answer. What an awesome family heirloom. Make sure it's not loaded, get it cleaned up inside and out and take it to the range in memory of Gramps.
