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As many of you know, I have stacks of old MuzzleBlast magazines which I read during my morning Constitutional.

This morning, I was reading the Bevel Up/Bevel Down Brothers article in the July 2000 edition. The subject was Round vs Square patches, Does it Effect Accuracy?

The brothers used one of their .45 caliber, 1 1/8 octagon X 46 inch barreled Chunk guns mounted with a telescopic sight (to remove the sighting errors of iron sights), shot off of a bench using double sandbags.
They weighed all powder charges (90 grains of Goex FFg) on an electronic scale, all balls were cast at the same time from the same material and wieghed to assure uniformity. The barrel was wiped and dried after each shot and all shooting was done at 63 yards on one windless day.
5 shot groups were made with a 6th shot added to see what the effects of locating the patch 1/8 inch off center would do.

Although the original question was "Round vs Square", they added another type of patching that being, the one cut at the muzzle after starting the ball.

The results?
Shots made with the Round patch measured .655 center to center of the widest shots.

Shots made with the Square patch measured .788 center to center of the widest shots.

Shots made by cutting the patch at the muzzle measured .515 center to center of the widest shots. (remember, this is at 63 yards!)

The precut patches which were offset at the muzzle 1/8 inch?
This seemed to have no effect on the round patched shot which went into the same group as the centered patch. The square patch loaded offset created a "flyer" that went 1 inch away from the group.

What do I get from all of this?
For those who are just doing some target practice, hunting, plinking etc either of the patches will work just fine.
For those in serious competition in a target shooting competition cut the patch at the muzzle. You can't do any better than that. :)

Zonie :)
 
Yeah, but did they measure for Ticking Print Ball-side, or Ticking Print Bore Side?

How about weave axis perpendicular to the ground or at a 45?

Dull or Sharp knife used to cut at the bore?

Clean or fuzzy edges on the patches?

You KNOW how important all these things are to accuracy! :rotf:
 
Zonie said:
"...I read during my morning Constitutional..."
Zonie, this may be far more information than we need to know :rotf:
Results?
Round patch measured .655.
Cutting at the muzzle measured .515.
There's no way on this planet I'd ever notice 14/100ths of an inch difference in group size under ANY shooting[url] circumstances...in[/url] fact, I'm not sure I could repeatedly measure group sizes within that tolerance on a target face with holes in it...reckon I'll stay with the round precuts.
:grin:
 
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The barrel was wiped and dried after each shot and all shooting was done at 63 yards on one windless day

I wonder why 63 yards?Why not 53.5 metres? :winking:
 
He said that the shooting range in his back yard was 63 yards. I guess they didn't want to take the time to go to an official range.

By the way, for those who question the accuracy of a Flintlock, the Bevel Brothers shoot only Flintlock Rifles. :)

Also, for those wondering about the scope, they modified a Weaver scope base and glued it onto the barrel with Brownell's "Black Max" made by Loctite. They ended up clamping the scope two places in front of the adjustment knobs.
To remove the scope base, they heated the barrel with a Propane torch.
 
The most interesting omission to me is that nothing is mentioned about the brand, power, or exact type of reticle of the scope that was being used for the test. The reason why this information may be important in interpreting any test results is because the riflescope used may have reticle subtension dimensions that could actually be larger than the difference(s) in the group size measurements. This fact alone may negate the meaningfulness (or inference) of why one group size is smaller than the other.
For instance, if the reticle subtension dimension at 63 yards is .5 inches, then there is a margin of error built into the scope that is larger than the differences in the group sizes shot in the test (.5 may be the approximate reticle subtension dimension of a Burris 3-9 power plex reticle scope at 63 yards on 9 power).

Reticle subtension dimension is the area of the target that the reticle obscures or covers when looking at the target. The area covered changes in size depending on the distance to the target, the power of the scope, and the exact dimensions (width) of the reticle.
[url] http://www.burrisoptics.com/specs.html[/url]
 
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53.5 meters huh? Oh Lord, next I'll have to measure ball speed in "furlongs-per-fortnight"! :rotf:
 
roundball,
I would never notice the difference
either. But when at the range I do cut at the
muzzle, mainly because I have some nice patch
knives I like using.
When hunting I do use round precut
patches. But then that's just me.
snake-eyes :hmm:
 
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