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Well. My first post. Its been 20 years since ive shot the .50 . Im curious as to what I can shoot out of it. I was just a kid the last time and I remember the round ball, But looking around there are all kinds of bullets. Maxi, Sabot, etc. Are these rounds limited to Inlines. Ill be targeting and then hunting and want to start finding my load for Deer and Elk. I dont have a problem shooting ball, just wondering what else is available or more consistant if any. Stock Hawkins 50.
Thanks Sean
 
It would help to know what twist your barrel is. Slow twist with deep rifling is best for PRB (ca. 1-60 1-70). Faster twists and shallow rifling are better for conicals (ca. 1-28). 1-48 twist are a compromise between the two and may shoot both well or prefer one or the other depending on the gun and load combination.

If you are not sure of the rate of twist put a tight fitting patch on a jag and slowly push it through the barrel while counting the revolutions. From the number of revolution and lenght of your barrel you can calculate twist.
 
first good to see you back in the M.L. field. yes, some of the "modern" projectiles are for inlines only. BUT, i depends on the twist of the rifleing in your M.L. that said, all the "rounds" availible today are for variouse types of arms. so a little research and questions like you just asked and you will get a world of information. hope this helps, Dave :thumbsup:
 
I believe its a 1:48 but I will have to varify it later as Im at work. Just trying to find out what is safe to experiment with. And what you all have had success with. Brand, style. Etc. Thanks.
 
I haven't shot anything out of my 1-48 twist barrell but a PRB (and double for deer, old timers called it loaded for bear - but I ain't been bear hunting, yet), but been wanting to try Lee REAL slugs.
I shot Lee mould slugs out of my cap&ball revolvers with better accuracy and power. I shot a slug with a max load out of my '58 Rem. 'Buffalo' thru a small jack-pine that a .357 did not pass thru. :hmm:
 
I use t/c maxi hunters or maxi balls in my hawken and my new englander .50, over 75 grains of 3f. they both seem to be acurate and powerful.so I've never fooled around with anything else. But the only blackpowder deer I've shot was with buffalo bullets in a lyman .50 trade rifle, can't remember the powder charge.
 
Hi this is Evan. Could you tell me how you safely load Patch & Ball for "bear". I have a lyman .50 cal. 1-60.

I am trying to find the best load for deer here in florida with the greatest knock-down with-in 50-75 yards.I hunt deer near and in the swamp and if my shot placement is a fraction off of a kill that would drop a deer on the spot the deer will run in the swamp and is usually lost. I have lots of guns that would do the job, but I love ML and choose to use my ML. Thank you, I'm just a newbe at 61-years old
 
How are you Evan... You can safely load up to 90 grains of 2f in your Lyman which would easily kill a deer at the distance your talking about. But you best find a good rest to shoot from. I shot a doe several years ago in her bed that was around 75 yards, give or take a few. Layed my gun across a log and shot ridge to ridge. She piled up 30 yards later. SSettle :grin:
 
Evan: If you pick your shots wisely, and always aim the shot so it will take out a lung, or both, and break one of the forelegs, the deer will go no where. A 50 cal. round ball will completely penetrate a deer shot broadside, leaving a blood trail on both side of her body, from both the entrance and exit wounds, to follow. Because she stands about 2 feet tall at the point of impact on a chest shot, you will find blood on bushes, and branches from 2 feet to the ground, as well as on the ground. When an animal crashes through water to escape, they move mud on the bottom, stirring it up if it is quiet water, which leaves a trail in the water as clear as on land. If it is quiet water- a pond or swamp- there will be algae and other plant life growing on the surface. Her passing will disturb that surface scum, leaving an trail, too, just in case you can't see the disturbed mud under the water. Deer, when wounded, and escaping, use game trails, because it allows them the quickest way to travel. Wounded deer head for water because they have a rush of adrenalin in their blood stream to push red blood cells to the wounds, and the increase in blood pressure, no matter how temporary, takes heated blood to the head, and give them a burning headache. They begin to perspire, get dry mouth, etc., just as you do when you are sick, and they head for the coolest place they know so they can lay down, cool their bodies, and brains, and rest while they figure out how to stop the bleeding.

Learn to read tracks. The tracks of a wounded deer are particularly distinct, and if you do break a rib, or leg bone, you will see unmistakable drag marks on the ground. The tracks will be accompanied by those blood trails I mentioned above. That blood is your confirmation that you are following the right set of tracks. Your deer tend to be fairly small in body weight, compared to the corn and soybean fed monsters we grow here in Illinois. I have seen blood trails stop after a few hundred yard because, as we discovered later, the thick fur on our deer is often enough to clot the wound, and prevent the blood from dripping out on the ground. You don't have that problem in Florida, so you should be able to track any deer you shoot, no matter if it goes through some shallow water or not. You may get your feet wet, but that should almost feel good even in the Fall, considering how warm your daily temperatures are.
 
To Evan It is hard to drop a deer on the spot with any gun. I have only done it once with a 44 magnum at 70 yards and only because it hit the spine. I shot a 90 pound doe at 40 feet facing me the 177 grain round ball went into her chest and blew the back part of her heart off and she still ran 50 yards, flipped over a downed tree and ended dropping down a 12 foot creek embakment into the creek.
 
Shortjack: althrough I'm 61-years old I've only been hunting a short time. I guess I have been watching the hunting ch. on T.V to long. They make it look easy, but I have already found out it's not. Not at least were I have been hunting.. Thanks for your reply. Evan
 
I use a double PRB load in my .50, dump the powder (I use 70 gr 3f), insert a felt wad and put a dollop of GO-JO on it, then run it down on the powder. Start a PRB just enough into the barrel that you can start another then run both down onto the wad firmly- make sure they are seated completely. They ain't going far hit in the boiler room with this.
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Lone Carabiner, how far out can I shoot with this set-up and still have knock-down power. Why would you use less powder to push two balls than one. When I called layman and asks them what was the best load for their .50 cal they recomended 100 FF ? for one ball. How can 70 FF push two balls as well........I'm a newbe and preplexed with all the math involved in the muzzleloading world. thanks for your responce........evan
 
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