WANTED Sante Fe or Ithaca Hawken

[BigSkyRambler]

I'm looking for either a Sante Fe Hawken (.53 caliber) from Allen Arms or Western Arms company. I would also consider a 54 caliber Ithaca Hawken. I prefer the former as I already have a ball mold. Although, I've read that the Ithaca is a better representation.

I don't have an authentic Hawken copy in my collection. While I usually shoot flintlocks, I believe I should have one of these, right?

Thanks!

Walt

Your ship just came in. Check classifieds.

 

[BP Addict]

I want to thank everyone who has offered one of their prize rifles to me!

I don't remember the Sante Fe I sold having anything on it that said: "Made in Italy". In fact, my only experience with something made by Uberti for someone else was a Lyman Remington Revolver. All it had was the Uberti Cartouche, an octagon with U in the middle.

I was hoping to find something that didn't have all that Italian verbiage on the barrel. Otherwise, I could buy one from Pedersoli.

Am I being unrealistic?

Thanks!

Walt

 

[Rod Man]

I think Someone just posted a Santa Fe in .54 for sale.
RM

 

[BP Addict]

I think Someone just posted a Santa Fe in .54 for sale.
RM

Thanks for the update. I already asked and it has Aldo Uberti written all over it.

Walt

 

[William Sublette]

http://grrw.org/uberti-santa-fe-hawken/

^^^^^That link answers Answers a lot of the questions.

 

[BP Addict]

http://grrw.org/uberti-santa-fe-hawken/

^^^^^That link answers Answers a lot of the questions.

Yes, reading it again, right now.

I suppose I'd rather have one like yours over a Pedersoli with manufacturer's name and place, serial number, read instructions warning, etc.

I just might have to take what I can get.

Thanks!

Walt

 

[brushblind]

Track Of The Wolf just listed one if you hurry. It's the Itilian made model.

 

[William Hagewood]

There is currently a Santa Fe Hawken by Uberti on sale at TOTW

 

[rpatmuck]

I bought a Ithaca Hawken years ago off Gun Broker with two extra barrels besides the 50 cal. barrel that came with the gun. Both extra barrels were smooth bore with one being a 12 ga. and the other measured .566 inside. The previous owner had the extra barrels made to fit the rifle with breech plugs that look identical to the original barrel. When I fired the 50 cal. barrel the hammer would move to half cock and I think the main spring is weak. I could not locate a new spring so I haven't fired it since. I like the feel of the rifle as it comes right up and my eyes line right up with the sights.

 

[LME]

I bought a Ithaca Hawken years ago off Gun Broker with two extra barrels besides the 50 cal. barrel that came with the gun. Both extra barrels were smooth bore with one being a 12 ga. and the other measured .566 inside. The previous owner had the extra barrels made to fit the rifle with breech plugs that look identical to the original barrel. When I fired the 50 cal. barrel the hammer would move to half cock and I think the main spring is weak. I could not locate a new spring so I haven't fired it since. I like the feel of the rifle as it comes right up and my eyes line right up with the sights.

It could be a burnt out nipple causing the hammer to fly back? Try a new nipple and at least eliminate or confirm it?

 

[rpatmuck]

Thanks for that info! I will do that!

 

[BP Addict]

Every time I decide I want something that is no longer made, there always seems to be a fascinating origin story. I want to thank the GRRW Collectors Association for their dedication to not only Doc Whites company but others as well, Green River Forge, Allen Arms, Ithaca muzzleloaders, etc.!

I have a line on a couple and am leaning towards one in Tennessee. Although, I may buy both. I'm still waiting on photos of the other. I'm heading to NC so will be able to see the first one in person and pick it up there.

Thanks, everyone! Yawl are a great bunch of folks!

Walt

 

[BP Addict]

I bought a Ithaca Hawken years ago off Gun Broker with two extra barrels besides the 50 cal. barrel that came with the gun. Both extra barrels were smooth bore with one being a 12 ga. and the other measured .566 inside. The previous owner had the extra barrels made to fit the rifle with breech plugs that look identical to the original barrel. When I fired the 50 cal. barrel the hammer would move to half cock and I think the main spring is weak. I could not locate a new spring so I haven't fired it since. I like the feel of the rifle as it comes right up and my eyes line right up with the sights.

The Uncle Mike's Hot Shot nipple has a hole that goes sideways through the tip to stop "blowback"!

Walt

 

[rpatmuck]

I found the nipple to have a hole in the bottom over twice as large as it needed to be. I changed it out and the rifle had no more problems! Thanks for the info!

 

[beardedhorse]

Sometime ago Cherry Corners predated both Ithaca and Navy Arms and Uberti half stock Hawken percussion rifles.

 

[beardedhorse]

Forgot about the Allen company. A .45 caliber original half stock St. Louis Hawken sold for $25.500.00 last week end at the Colorado Gun Collectors Association annual show. Either Cowan or Morphy's Auction house is auctioning off a half stock Sam Hawken and expect the bids to range from $40,000.00 to $60,000.00

 

[BP Addict]

Sometime ago Cherry Corners predated both Ithaca and Navy Arms and Uberti half stock Hawken percussion rifles.

The owner of Cherry Corners wanted to retire so he sold everything to Ithaca.

Walt

 

[RLD090646]

All the Ithaca Hawkens made by Cherry Corners before N A"s were .50 cal , they were available as kits and finished rifles.

Is the full stocked Hawken pictured in the attached pictures, for sale?

 

[DuncNZ]

The H Leman rifles are a more authentic to the time period if you want a Rocky Mountain Fur Trade Rifle . I sold my Uberti .54 and got a custom made H Leman for the same money . The Hawken mystique seems to cost a lot of money .