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PitchyPine

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What kind and how good of steel for knife making do saw blades have.
I have a 48 inch sawmill blade that is not good for sawing and a bunch of two man cross-cut hand saws, the real long ones they used a long time ago.
Thanks
 
most of the older saws are good steel close to L-6 or better but its hard and brittle you will have to anneal the blade to work it and retemper and harden it if you have a plasma cutter you can cut out the blanks very ez . and you can cold grind them to shape ,but i have not had a lot of experience with saw blades im sure wick elerby or nifeman can set you straight .--tom
 
Hey Pitchy, Two-Bellys is correct. I've used them and they work well and make for a tough knife. I had a batch of Swedish bandsaw steel that I got from a local sharpening shop and that works real good for patch knives. It's a bit thin for larger knives, but, it works good and hardens nicely. Another type of steel that I like is the old power hacksaw blades that are used industrially, if you can find them. The old l-6 blades work good for Damascus as well. Hope this helps...Bud

Now if we can get Mr. Ellerbes input... :winking:
 
Thanks guys, a plasma cutter would be nice alright but no can aford right now.
Cross cut saws could be cut in strips with a chop saw. The cross cut saws are pretty thin but the big circle saw id fairly heavy.
Sounds interesting. :)
 
Not to pirate a post but I've had some similar questions to...What about old skill saw blades? I know they are not big but would they work for small knives? I have access to a bunch of old ones. Also would hacksaw blades make a good V spring? I need to custom make one for a patch box catch.
 
Don't let the metal get hot enough to change colors, unless you want to go through the whole heat-treating process on it. Keep your work so you can dip it in water on occasion. Just my thoughts from my experiences in the past with saw blade metal. I like old saw blades for that purpose. They make nice carving tools also.
 
I found that a great metal for a patch-box catch spring was to use metal banding strap like used in shipping. It comes in different sizes. The really thin stuff is not good, only the thicker springier type. I've made paring knives out of it, too.
 
what bout old hand saws....i have a rip and a cross cut....kinda stiff, haven't mic'ed them yet....there just sitting in my way right now....all i have right now is plumbing torch sets that screw onto the propane or mapp gas bottles fer any kind of heating :v ...............bob
 
this big knife is made from a saw blade the type used for cutting steel the knife is just a meat cleaver realy. the blade is 12"long and 2-1/4"wide and has an over all length of 18" .the saw teeth have bin left on so it can saw through bone as well. it is a very handy tool.a friend and i made it.
bernie :grin:
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PitchyPine said:
What kind and how good of steel for knife making do saw blades have.
I have a 48 inch sawmill blade that is not good for sawing and a bunch of two man cross-cut hand saws, the real long ones they used a long time ago.
Thanks
Are you going to forge the blades or grind them into shape? I only ask because if your going to forge the blade then you could just get the saw blade red hot and chisel out a blank, but it your grinding the blade to shape and you have access to an air compressor you could use a die grinder with a cut off wheel and cut one out that way. It would be cheaper that a plasma cutter.
Jeff
 
White Buffalo...I wondered about the same thing, and picked up an old rip saw at a flea market last year...so far, I've been able to cut 5 patch knife blades out of it using a dremel cutting wheel...actually cuts pretty well....I use a torch on the tang to kill any temper, and use antler pieces for the handle...the hardest thing for me was grinding and edge on the blade and getting an even, common angle on the edge...my grindstone is probably too narrow....Hank
 
blacksmithshoppe said:
PitchyPine said:
What kind and how good of steel for knife making do saw blades have.
I have a 48 inch sawmill blade that is not good for sawing and a bunch of two man cross-cut hand saws, the real long ones they used a long time ago.
Thanks
Are you going to forge the blades or grind them into shape? I only ask because if your going to forge the blade then you could just get the saw blade red hot and chisel out a blank, but it your grinding the blade to shape and you have access to an air compressor you could use a die grinder with a cut off wheel and cut one out that way. It would be cheaper that a plasma cutter.
Jeff

Will prob. cut them out with a chop saw and grinders. Can ya use it as is if ya don`t over heat it then?
 
post some pictures of you process and a final product this may be a big help to every one :thumbsup:
 
good looking knife and sheath wind walker like the colors and design what kind of wood is the handel made from :v
 
I haven't messed around with any of the small or large circular saw blades - yet. But you have to be careful with the newer ones. Many are bi-metal - one type of alloy steel for the teeth area and another type alloy for the main center part. The same goes for many of the modern hacksaw and bandsaw blades.

I have made a lot of small knives from handsaw blades, and the big crosscut saw blades. The crosscut saw blades work well for the classic trade knives, butcher knives, and scalpers. Also for big folding knife blades. The handsaw blades work well for small utility knives, penny knives, and other small folding knives.

I chisel out the profile of the blade I want on the saw blade - slightly oversized. I then clamp it in my vise and tap along the sides to break away the parts I don't want. I then grind the blade down to the final profile of the knife. Cool it often. If it's getting too hot to hold in your fingers, cool it. Ifr it's starting to turn blue - cool it now. After I get it profiled out, I then grind my blade bevels for the edge - sometimes with the bench grinder, sometimes with the angle grinder and a sanding flap wheel. Final edge bevel is done on the belt sander. Sometimes I drill the pin holes in the handle (eats drill bits, even the good ones), but mustly I punch them through and then touch up with a drill.

If you don't overheat the blade, the original heat-treating of the saw blade remains and works great in the final knife. Forging a chunk of saw blade into a knife blade requires the whole heat-treating/tempering process - of course.

Just some humble thoughts to share.

yhs
Mike Ameling
 
Thanks all :bow: , looks like i have some more projects to try :thumbsup: , that is after i get rid of the flu i had to catch. :shake:
 
two-bellys the wood is a west australian hard wood called jarrah it is very hard wood and can range in
from very light to very dark in coular.
bernie :grin:
 
Sorry windwalker i missed complimenting you on your knife, looks great and i like the leaving the saw teeth on top. :thumbsup:
 
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