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Screened powder. My impressions.

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Recently, Musketman sent me some screens to experiment with sifting powder. I gave it a try and thought I'd post some initial impressions. I took 4 guns out to test with. A T/C Patriot pistol in .45 percussion, a T/C Seneca in .45 percussion, an Austin & Halleck Mountain Rifle in flint, and the same gun in percussion.

I sifted 3F Goex to remove fines and larger grains. I used the fines as priming powder. As expected, I noticed no difference in priming performance between the fines and regular 3F.

Using the sifted 3F, I tried some of the same charge weights that I had used before. I didn't have time to work up new loads, so all I could do was compare groups to known loads.

I'm still getting used to shooting a flintlock, so the groups still aren't as tight as I'd like, and I noticed no improvement using the sifted powder.

I did notice somewhat smaller groups using the percussion A/H. When a shot strayed from the group, it wasn't as far as before. It could be that I'm getting more used to the rifle, or it could be that there is more consistency in velocity.

Unfortunately, my chrono was still out on loan so I didn't get to test velocities, but that'll be next. This was just a plinking session to see if there were noticeable differences.

As for the Thompsons, I didn't notice any accuracy difference with the Seneca. The gun is more accurate than I am, so if there was an improvement, my skills didn't allow me to take advantage of it.

Where the difference was most noticeable was in the Patriot. Even off the bench, I would always get some vertical stringing in the group at 25 yards. It's an accurate gun and the groups are tight, but always larger in the vertical. The groups shot with sifted 3F are round. No vertical stringing. While the actual group size is about the same, probably limited by the shooter rather than the gun, the overall size of the group shrunk due to the reduction in vertical stringing.

When I get my chrono back and have more time, I'm going to try and do some more formal testing for standard of deviation, group size of sifted vs. unsifted side by side, etc. The results look promising, but mostly it's just a heckuva lotta fun to do. :)
 
Exactly what I found.

Should shoot a bit cleaner too.

What Mesh screen did you use?

I screen my 3F to a 40mesh hold and screen my 4F to a 60mesh hold.

(Out of 25lbs of Lidu Bulk 3F I got about 17lbs 3F/40, 7lbs 4F/60 and 13oz
 
Plink said:
Recently, Musketman sent me some screens to experiment with sifting powder.

I am glad you are putting them to good use, like the powder itself, keep the screens away from any spark or heat source now, just in case there is any powder trapped in the mesh...
 
I would be interested in seeing what the finest bits do. I suspect that they may not be as effective for priming use since I would think that they may be a higher percent of graphite than commercially available 4F. Just a theory. What did you find?

CS
 
Old Ironsights said:
Exactly what I found.

Should shoot a bit cleaner too.

What Mesh screen did you use?

I screen my 3F to a 40mesh hold and screen my 4F to a 60mesh hold.

(Out of 25lbs of Lidu Bulk 3F I got about 17lbs 3F/40, 7lbs 4F/60 and 13oz
 
Musketman said:
I am glad you are putting them to good use, like the powder itself, keep the screens away from any spark or heat source now, just in case there is any powder trapped in the mesh...

I washed them when I cleaned the guns. Just outta habit. :)
 
CrackStock said:
I would be interested in seeing what the finest bits do. I suspect that they may not be as effective for priming use since I would think that they may be a higher percent of graphite than commercially available 4F. Just a theory. What did you find?

CS

CrackStock, I didn't sift the fines out of the 4F. I just used what I sifted out of the 3F as priming. It flashed as well as the 3F had been doing. I didn't notice any more fouling in the pan than usual when I wiped it. As I tinker more, I'll experiment with sifting the 4F and fines and seeing what happens with them.
 
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