eggwelder said:
Meh, old squaws' tale. It's their teeth you have to worry about.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/wendigo.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO98NMMgp0Y
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Meh, old squaws' tale. It's their teeth you have to worry about.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/wendigo.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO98NMMgp0Y
I don't know about werewolves but I know that wendigos, day's gone. :grin:
As for the balls in ball bearings, they are just about as hard as steel can get, often ranging from Rockwell C 65 to 67.
Despite their hardness, I think if they are patched with cloth or leather that's at least 1/64" (.016) thick the patching would protect the bore from any damage unless the bore was choked.
Lead balls can be swaged to a smaller size as they pass thru the choke. Ball bearings can't.
As for the balls in ball bearings, they are just about as hard as steel can get, often ranging from Rockwell C 65 to 67.
Despite their hardness, I think if they are patched with cloth or leather that's at least 1/64" (.016) thick the patching would protect the bore from any damage unless the bore was choked.
Lead balls can be swaged to a smaller size as they pass thru the choke. Ball bearings can't.
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It may or may not be an idea my friend, But you could just go to the local sporting goods store and buy a bag of fishing sinkers and melt them down. Here in NY i can get lead free weights at just about everywhere...It wouldnt be the most econimcal but you said that you arent shooting alot...may be cheaper than buying bismuth or other metals....IDK as of right now i can still use lead..
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No matter what you do..., if you have to make them or buy them and they are not obviously steel, tungsten, or brass..., especially if you cast them yourself, you will want to test the metal before casting or using. There are such Lead Testers available.
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California really sucks! Just about as un-American as you can get. Folks have sold themselves for gold!
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Well, cast from gold it would only be about 170 dollars per shot.
There's people pay a lot more than that for hunting trips all the time!
There's people pay a lot more than that for hunting trips all the time!
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GoodCheer said:
Would that be $1,700 per shot, based on an ounce of gold?
But still you're right about the prices folks are paying for hunting these days.
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wahkahchim said:
Am I the only one smart enough to see what California's lead free projectile requirements are, before postulating possible substitutes?..............
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Apparently, yes. I've read the requirements, but perhaps I missed something. Please continue...
Another thing to consider with ball bearing material is what happens should a ball bounce skyward and strike a condor??
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It's just a another slick back door way to deter firearms ownership and hunting. The left at it's best. Makes some pencil neck wackos feel good about themselves. If you can, move away and take your tax dollars to a state that honors your rights. If that's not practical, spend several hours each week doing anything to make liberals who support this crap unhappy :rotf:
Substitute tax! :shocked2:
https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Hunting/Nonlead-Ammunition/Certified
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A bloated bureaucracy gone wild. Especially sad this is in the U.S.
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That is to what I was referring.... :thumbsup: :hatsoff:Claude said:
I do see one individual's name on the list appearing to make 38/55 bullets out of bismuth....But I don't see the OP's yet.
My understanding is that if it's not on the list, lead free or not it's still illegal.
I admit I didn't open all of those PDF files and read them but I am sure they all were for bullets.
That's fine for the folks who shoot those modern things but nowhere have I ever seen a approved listing by the State of California for any approved roundballs for muzzleloaders.
If you hunt in California with a roundball, I believe whatever your shooting must be "On The List".
That leaves all the muzzleloading rifle shooters out in the cold.
That's fine for the folks who shoot those modern things but nowhere have I ever seen a approved listing by the State of California for any approved roundballs for muzzleloaders.
If you hunt in California with a roundball, I believe whatever your shooting must be "On The List".
That leaves all the muzzleloading rifle shooters out in the cold.
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Makes me wonder about "shot." ITX round balls come to mind.
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Tombob outdoors llc. is just one example that has the ITX round balls listed on the list..Zonie said:I admit I didn't open all of those PDF files and read them but I am sure they all were for bullets.
That's fine for the folks who shoot those modern things but nowhere have I ever seen a approved listing by the State of California for any approved roundballs for muzzleloaders.
If you hunt in California with a roundball, I believe whatever your shooting must be "On The List".
That leaves all the muzzleloading rifle shooters out in the cold.
https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=91765&inline
